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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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welcome fade to black

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bespoke radio

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how you doing how you doing today is

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in the middle of nowhere

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but it is beautiful

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how you doing i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and nearer

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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that's what i'm talking about but

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over at nx the ride

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how you doing how you doing

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it's gonna be a great night tonight

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our good friend paula harris

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all of that stuff we're going to be

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and that's what i'm talking she's like

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jim there's more going on out there man

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like i i no you don't get it you think

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yeah she's the best the absolute very

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and uh tomorrow night fader night open

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lines all night long

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olivia i really dig that i dream of

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meow meow brought brought the good stuff

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tonight so to kaz

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ken priest that's good stuff right there

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man third stone you guys are the

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just saying you guys are the best thank

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tomorrow night is fader night

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she goes jimmy

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i've got you all hooked up in laughlin

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and i said thank you you know and and so

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she was listening anyway she already did

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there you go i will be at the conference

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uh thursday night and i'll see everybody

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everybody uh at the star works usa ufos

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conference this november 12th through

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i got the schedule right of the event

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she's the absolute very best there was

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go figure that one out so uh that's

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awesome i'm gonna ask paul about that

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where am i at

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starworksusa.com that's all you got to

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do i'll see everybody out there next

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weekend

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and uh in a week

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in a week yeah by the way there will be

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no uh fade to black next thursday night

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we will be running a replay

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links are below

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uh you can click there we've got them up

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all over social media

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and uh go to starworksusa.com for your

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tickets and info and your lodging

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preferences follow me on twitter

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at j church radio i can't stop watching

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stevie nicks tara that is just not cool

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at j church radio's twitter hashtag f2b

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is the sandbox where i am looking at

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bang on that tambourine it is right

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and any questions during the show

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tonight hashtag f2bq let's get to the

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that's right well contact and disclosure

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uh waiting for some kind of updates

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because a company called meta that isn't

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facebook is willing to sell their name

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and they sell custom desktops laptops

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joe darger and zac shoot the company's

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founders have been operating as meta pc

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the duo doesn't own the name yet

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but they're ahead of zuckerberg on the

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they are willing to part with the name

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of zuckerberg forks over

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20 million dollars in cash

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now that might

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sound like a lot of dosh but met at pc

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we'll have to rebrand everything retool

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everything do all of that stuff if the

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which will cost them a lot of ducks from

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20 million big ones that's a pretty big

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payday that's all right well hazardous

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asteroids have impacted earth in the

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past and we should be concerned about

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potential future threats we all know

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this that's why nasa is launching the

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double asteroid redirection test mission

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november 23rd that's right couple of

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the space agency is talking up its plans

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for dart

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the virtual media briefing kicks off at

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10 a.m pacific time at 7 00 a.m eastern

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tomorrow november 4th and you can watch

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cnet.com the mission's destination is

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actually a pair of space rocks larger

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moonlet named demorphos

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and in late

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2022 dart will smash into the moonlet

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to try and change its orbit around its

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bigger friend if that works it could

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offer a blueprint for redirecting

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potentially dangerous asteroids away

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from earth

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spacex that's right elon

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is set to escort dart off this planet

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with an assist from a falcon 9 rocket

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launching from vandenberg air force base

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down the street

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right here in california

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well this is crazy news

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listen to this

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the federal communications commission

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the fcc

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has authorized a satellite internet

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project from boeing

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now boeing first proposed this back in

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2017

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boeing can now move forward with

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building launching and operating

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its own broadband internet network from

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space

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elon musk

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boeing's plan involves placing

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132 satellites into a low earth orbit

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at an altitude at about 656 miles

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another 15

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will be launched

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non-geostationary orbit in other words

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those suckers are going to be moving

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at an altitude between 16 998

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to 27

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478

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miles

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the company says it wants to use the

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satellites to offer broadband internet

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and communication services to

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residential customers government and

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business users in the united states

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puerto rico and the u.s virgin islands

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while the network gets built out

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and then the rest of the world once it's

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complete let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday too do you remember this

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guy

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he you know he's a member of mensah

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he is i know that right there you think

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that's a joke it's not dolph lundgren

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today i think he's got a degree in

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physics or something he's like a

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physicist

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i'm not kidding something crazy

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dolph today is 63 years old and this is

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the surprise here you go

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adam and

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right adam at think about that now

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adamant today

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is

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67 years old

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man i remember you know like it was

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yesterday mtv just signed on

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and it was like don't drink don't you

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what do you do right don't drink don't

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smoke what do you do remember that

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i was a good guitar

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67 years old slipknot guitars mick

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thompson

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today

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the lucky number seven

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is 48 years old i like nick he's a cool

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dude our dead guy's birthday today is

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joe

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age of 66.

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in

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1966

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joe co-founded the band blues image

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as a drummer remember that uh what uh uh

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uh i was gonna name some of the songs as

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a drummer and percussionist he worked

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with the birds

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crosby steals nash and young manassas

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the stills young band the bee gees

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whitney houston joe walsh and many

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others throughout his career la la

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accumulated 32 gold records and 28

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platinum records he played on movie

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soundtracks of saturday night fever

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staying alive dc cab streets of fire

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all the right moves breathless defiance

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the lonely guy

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and even airplane

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carpal tunnel sidelined his music career

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and he got into acting

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and he acted in tv stuff like miami vice

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general hospital melrose place seinfeld

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and who's the boss and in films sugar

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hill on deadly ground havana

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out for justice mark for death and born

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in east l.a many more many more by the

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way

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but it was his animated shows that were

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so amazing

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joe lala

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did voices in batman the animated series

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pinky and the brain

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quack pack the angry beavers the

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adventures of jimmy neutron boy genius i

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love that cartoon

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danger rangers chalk zone one of my

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favorites johnny bravo he's also an ozzy

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and drix

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and superman the animated series

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but then joe died suddenly from

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complications of lung cancer on march 18

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2014 in tampa florida the young age of

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66.

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happy birthday joe lala

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and on this day in history 1948

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the chicago tribune

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jumps the shark

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that's right

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ride captain ride cass

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that's awesome blues image

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the chicago tribune jumps the shark and

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mistakenly declares

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dewey defeats truman

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in their front page headline that's

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right the chicago tribune most people

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forget what newspaper was they just

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remember the headline

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in 1972

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the los alamos national laboratories

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patented a nuclear tunnel boring machine

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claiming it could reach depths of 18

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miles

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it uses molten lithium to melt through

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rock

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leaving behind a tunnel

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with a glass-like finish on the walls

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holy crap

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mater fact that was vetted i read the

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whole patent today by the way

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that was some interesting reading but i

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did i read the whole pattern crazy it

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was like 10 dudes

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10 dudes that were involved in that

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river moon coffee river

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all right

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rivermoonwellness.com

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promo code f2b blend

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15 off of your order today go to our

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amazon store too

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all right all right the game changer

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blend

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jimmy church variety show

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my new tv show that i'm doing i'm gonna

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start shooting it uh uh in a couple of

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weeks

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i think i'm gonna change the name

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and go back to the network the jimmy

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church variety show

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in lights

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large

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sonny and cher did it dean martin did it

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brady bunch did it

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everybody did it

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kenny rogers did it

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everybody did it

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what's his name um

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uh

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okay i gotta get away from this

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jimmy church variety show all right i

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the first trailer for roland emmerich's

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new sci-fi devastation spectacular

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moon moonfall

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has arrived in a promises epic

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destruction

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on an unprecedented scale

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yeah

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now for me

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roland has always delivered the good

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stuff

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he got independence day right

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2012. i still watch that movie all the

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time love the ending the day after

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tomorrow

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right stargate

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whitley strieber wrote the day after

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tomorrow by the way i think he wrote

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and uh well he doesn't always deliver

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the goods because i didn't mention

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godzilla did i

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although

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it's like this everybody i enjoy the

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special effects i do the size

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the giant-ness of his films

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i always think about

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i mean how many people just died when

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that coastline the skyscrapers

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everything you know just tipped over

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into the sea

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right or when the ground opens up and

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swallows an entire city

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right you know flying a plane through

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the crevices of the new grand canyon and

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and

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earth

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how many people just died

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when john cusack or will smith outrun

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exploding terra firma

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they survive

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that's cool

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but how many didn't

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seriously in a weird way

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00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:05,600
sometimes it's hard for me to watch

510
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,760
those huge epic scenes of destruction

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sure

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they're gorgeous to look at

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but in them everybody dies

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think about that

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the little puppies dead

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right

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dead

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it's like for me i keep thinking that

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roland

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he's always blowing it up

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think about it

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00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:41,440
now moon fall has it all

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it does

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and you get this quote from donald

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sutherland who looks great by the way in

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in the trailer that that little clip of

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donald is is pretty epic

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but uh donald sutherland

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says this thing in the trailer he says

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uh quote he goes

531
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the earth has survived five mass

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extinction events

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this is gonna be the sixth

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and you're like

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00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:10,480
whoa

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that's right

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00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,120
here we go

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roland is back

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00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:16,480
right

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and i swear

541
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,320
go watch the trailer go watch it anyway

542
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,960
there's more though we've got a new

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apollo moon hoax

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00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:30,960
yeah in play in this movie apollo 11

545
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made it

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00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:35,679
yeppers it did but while there

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00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,720
they discovered that our moon was

548
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:40,799
wait for it

549
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:46,149
seems that roland listens to way too

550
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:49,520
much fade to black but enough of that um

551
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,640
yeah

552
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:52,799
the moon is hollow

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00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,400
and it's really nice inside too by the

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way it's all modern and stuff it's got

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00:27:03,029 --> 00:26:59,840
clean lines like a new york loft

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00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,039
right soho really nice but we'll have to

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00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,080
wait and see uh until the movie releases

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00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,240
to find out who built it and who lives

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00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,880
there right what kind of deliveries they

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have

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and uh but yeah something

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00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:16,640
there

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00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,679
is really pissed off anyway

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00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,360
now the moon is on the collision course

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00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:23,679
for our planet and the president then

566
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,399
goes on tv and says

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the entire west coast of the united

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states must be evacuated

569
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,120
it's like rolling emerick man come on

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00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,279
man and you guessed it los angeles san

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diego san francisco portland seattle map

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they're all gone goodbye probably fort

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00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,679
bragg too right there in the central

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coast but uh

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00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,039
fort bragg didn't make it into the

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trailer so it looks like roland also

577
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,760
brings back the space shuttle because we

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00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,000
see it being towed down a street

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by a bunch of concerned citizens of

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earth right and we apparently send three

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astronauts slash people slash concerned

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citizens back to the moon

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or in this case inside of it to stage an

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epic cgi battle with the creature who

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has got its hands on a steering wheel

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and is driving the moon

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into the earth

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now is it just me

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right

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or is there anything better than a great

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cgi fisticuffs

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now the answer is no nothing better love

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me a good cgi fight so

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yeah this sounds like a really good film

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actually and i'm gonna watch it

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it comes out february 4th 2022 and i'll

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be there to see how many people are left

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to survive emmerich's earth

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right after his epic west coast

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destruction

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hey you know you gotta look at it like

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this you know at least uh

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costco is gonna have shorter lines right

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after everything burns down blows up

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crumbles falls and tumbles into the

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oceans of the world but hey

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we do save the moon

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so we've got that going for us

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight paula harris is

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back with us

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to talk about the global the

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international side of disclosure and who

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will be speaking at the star works

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conference next week

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in laughlin nevada

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i got the schedule right here

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ross coltart right there right there

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tomorrow night fader night open lines

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harris

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fade to black

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is not

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church

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tomorrow night theater night open lines

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all night long that's right

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get ready for that love it it's my

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favorite night of the week

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except for

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tonight

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because paula harris is with us to

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discuss the international worldwide

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global view that is happening right now

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00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:19,520
in terms of disclosure

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00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,920
and what it means for the future of our

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planet

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that's right

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she's a photojournalist an investigative

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reporter in the field of ufos and

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00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,640
extraterrestrial related phenomenon

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00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,720
research with a master's degree in

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00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,040
education she is also widely published

745
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:37,200
freelance writer she has studied

746
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,280
extraterrestrial related phenomena since

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00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:40,880
1979.

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00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,960
from 1980 to 1986 she assisted dr j

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allen heineck paula's books include

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connecting the dots making sense of the

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ufo phenomena how do you speak to a ball

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00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,160
of light exo-politics stargate to a new

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00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,640
reality all the above and beyond

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00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,200
conversations with colonel corso and

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00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:03,599
their latest work trinity co-authored

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00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,320
with jacques valet she has spoken all

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around the world including

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ireland england norway switzerland

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00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,640
columbia argentina chile germany and

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belgium her production company star

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works usa produces the star wars usa

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00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,079
laughlin ufos and consciousness november

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00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:22,880
conferences which focus on disclosure

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consciousness raising

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00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,880
exo political dialogue with

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international speakers the website of

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course i announce it every night on the

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show

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is

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starworksusa.com the links are right

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below us i would like to welcome back to

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fade to black the one and only paula

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harris

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what's going on

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00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,720
you make me laugh uh thank you so much

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wow what a tall order i don't think i

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can live up to that

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but you do and you know what though you

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know what um uh i'm gonna say can i can

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i can i just say something a little bit

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private a little bit personal

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00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,510
okay okay see she's already nervous

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00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:11,440
paula's cool

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she's

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cool

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pillow and every time

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uh we get a chance to hang out and

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00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:23,520
you're around the fader knots and and

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things

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uh you're you're so much fun you make

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everybody laugh and you always do

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00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:30,960
something just a little bit nutty just a

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little bit crazy just to let us know

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that you're cool and i really appreciate

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that paul you know seriously thank you

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00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,200
so much

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00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,440
and uh well

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you're fun too though it takes one to no

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one

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you're a lot of fun too you know what

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00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,760
and uh you we have to keep that child

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00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,280
like uh

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you know we have to keep that child like

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ah

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that childlike nature because what we're

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00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,560
dealing with uh jimmy is so serious

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and so important that if i didn't have

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that balance i'd go crazy

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00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:07,520
yeah you you you you bring up a good

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point what you're saying is i instigate

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i've got i've got photographs i've got

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photographs of the two of us having uh

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you know and see the thing is um

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when

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they get to see that side of us

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it loosens them up too because everybody

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is here for their own emotional personal

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00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:35,920
reasons and sometimes they get sucked

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into being too serious too you know what

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i mean and they they they need to see

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you know and loosen up a little bit

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maybe

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some laughter some brevity sometimes is

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a good thing right

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oh all the time it's a good thing i

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think we need to balance it's called

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balance otherwise you know uh

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i that's why you know i i try to have

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like entertainment like at the

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conference i was just telling you that

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00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,200
our entertainment this year is frank

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sinatra and you're going to really bond

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with him i've i got the very serious

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issues that we're going to discuss but

835
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we've got to have the other side

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otherwise you know it's no fun

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00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,960
well okay so i got the schedule

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uh paula i'm holding it up to the camera

839
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,440
right i printed it out i per your

840
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,000
instructions by the way okay so

841
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:30,800
i i printed it out and it says down here

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00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,839
at the bottom the jimmy church variety

843
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:36,240
show so let me get some let me let me

844
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,280
get something clear i've got frank right

845
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:41,040
i got frank sinatra

846
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,359
i've got a variety show

847
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:45,200
does this mean i get

848
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:48,079
to get on stage with a martini can i do

849
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,079
that can i go full denial you can do

850
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,839
anything you want but i'm helping you

851
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:53,920
out because i've been doing no cards for

852
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:57,599
the trivia quiz all day hey

853
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,079
i'm sure you've got your own note cards

854
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,160
that we're going to do also trivia with

855
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:04,640
the audience you see how much they know

856
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,359
about ufology and uh

857
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:09,040
of course i'm going to put the answer on

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the back of the card

859
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,119
uh because some of my you know some of

860
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,520
these uh questions might not be not

861
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,000
everybody knows them but i think this is

862
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,760
the first time we've ever done this but

863
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,560
you you're perfect for this so friday

864
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,880
night we're going to have your variety

865
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,680
show it's like the old ed sullivan show

866
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:29,440
you know yep yep yep it's going to be

867
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,480
great i was thinking this

868
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,560
okay let's let's turn this around a

869
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:36,960
little bit okay i'm going to just throw

870
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,960
this idea out to the universe you tell

871
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:40,560
me what you think

872
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,359
what if the trivia

873
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:45,440
wasn't with the audience

874
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,839
what if the trivia

875
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:49,520
was at me

876
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,720
and if the audience member can

877
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,560
trip me up

878
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,480
they win a prize

879
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:57,920
i'll i'll give them fade to black

880
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,960
t-shirts every trivia question i lose

881
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,800
and we'll flip it around we'll see if

882
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:03,920
church is

883
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:07,040
is is made up of what he says he is

884
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,280
i'm i'm up for the challenge i'm up for

885
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:12,079
i'm up for the embarrassment

886
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,760
no you didn't know

887
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,920
they're not that hard of questions you

888
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,160
but you know i think that's a great idea

889
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:20,079
i think that's wonderful anything that's

890
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,520
interactive

891
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,079
i think it really has meaning so yes

892
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,160
absolutely let's do that yeah i think

893
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,480
that's great and uh it's gonna be so

894
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,640
much fun now but here

895
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:32,560
here's the question

896
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,359
are you ready we're a week out

897
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,000
how are you feeling you ready

898
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,240
oh yeah i know i've got everything under

899
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,400
control this is the seventh year i've

900
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:44,880
done this it's like a formula

901
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,359
so every year um

902
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:49,920
every year it's the same thing you know

903
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:53,119
we have i have something like 20 posters

904
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,119
i have this year

905
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,079
i have robots in the uh and the uh in

906
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:00,880
the foyers so that people can interact

907
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,359
with them i've got r2d2 and i've got a

908
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:05,440
robot that tells jokes

909
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:08,319
because it's artificial intelligence

910
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:11,440
as part of it all the above and beyond

911
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,240
so

912
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,079
there's you know when you come in it

913
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,079
doesn't look like any other conference

914
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,720
that people have been to we have a red

915
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:20,400
carpet where

916
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,079
the image is this huge white robot and

917
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,000
we have like a red carpet with

918
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:28,319
stanchions people have their picture

919
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,760
taken next to we have uh

920
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:34,240
it it's just amazing because

921
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,760
we work all year all year just for that

922
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,200
day and

923
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:41,920
with the help of of stacey herrick who's

924
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,560
my stage manager who's driving out the

925
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,200
robots i can't take them on the airplane

926
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:49,680
uh can you see me trying to put robots

927
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,520
on an airplane uh

928
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,200
you know where

929
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:55,119
it's going to be a lot of fun but it's

930
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,079
also very serious because the discussion

931
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:00,400
as you heard jacques valet talk about

932
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,880
artificial intelligence and how it's

933
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,200
going to influence our future

934
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:06,960
is something that we should talk about

935
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:09,440
so a lot of the themes that i use are

936
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,520
very advanced themes

937
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,280
you know i want to talk about the future

938
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:15,440
i want to talk about not only the future

939
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:16,800
of the planet

940
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:20,000
but the future of technology the future

941
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:21,680
of consciousness

942
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,800
uh and all of that which are our themes

943
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:27,119
is our conferences are always theme

944
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,319
based

945
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,200
now uh uh what's the uh i'm gonna stay

946
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,319
on this for a second uh uh the schedule

947
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,280
of things

948
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:36,800
but um

949
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,160
you always do a caller what's the theme

950
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:42,480
this year what what do i have to go get

951
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:45,040
a special tux

952
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,480
no

953
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,640
by the way i was good this was going to

954
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,480
be a surprise but i'll tell you every

955
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,000
one of the male

956
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,280
uh speakers or my av crew gets a jerry

957
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:57,040
garcia tie

958
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,640
okay and the colors are golden blue

959
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,720
you don't have to wear a tie but you're

960
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,920
going to take a tie home uh and i'll you

961
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,400
know we have classroom style

962
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,119
seating so it's all long tables and

963
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:13,359
they'll have blue tablecloths and then

964
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,319
at the

965
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,800
gala dinner everybody addresses them

966
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,960
blue and gold so the whole room is blue

967
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,160
and gold

968
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,280
uh and when we did the last conference

969
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,079
which was absolutely magnificent it was

970
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,319
on remote viewing we had russell targe

971
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:29,760
and uri geller

972
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,480
long distance we did black and whites

973
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,040
you can imagine everything was black and

974
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,920
white it looks so classy but this is

975
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,079
part of it we designed this conference

976
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,160
it's not just something that slapped

977
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:44,560
together we we designed the tickets we

978
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,760
designed the badges the red carpet

979
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,520
all the posters

980
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,640
and it it's fun and it has to be fun or

981
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:54,079
i wouldn't do it

982
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:57,440
can i take my poster home with me

983
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,079
absolutely i've already stolen a couple

984
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,599
uh from you i'm just gonna let you know

985
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,880
i needed

986
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:04,960
to

987
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:07,440
um so it's blue and gold

988
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:10,560
so i have blue and gold yeah i mean

989
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,720
gold gold a gold lame tux with a with a

990
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,800
blue shirt you are actually going to do

991
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:17,680
that

992
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,839
why wouldn't i

993
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:21,440
you would actually

994
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:26,800
elvis presley

995
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,240
why not

996
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,960
doesn't that sound fun

997
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:32,800
i think it's amazing but

998
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,800
it'll it'll certainly be a surprise

999
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,880
it'll be a photographic moment that's

1000
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:38,960
for sure well i'm stuck now that i've

1001
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,510
okay now uh and i was going over the

1002
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,079
schedule and things are great but i i'm

1003
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,800
rolling down and this name jumped out at

1004
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:51,920
me

1005
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,400
ross coulthard

1006
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:56,160
okay what's that

1007
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:57,280
yeah

1008
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:00,800
roscoe's art has written a book um

1009
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,839
called in plain sight i met him

1010
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,760
uh i met him while he was doing

1011
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,240
interviews in the united states he is

1012
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:10,880
from um australia

1013
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:14,079
an up-and-coming you know a star in in

1014
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,599
the ufo field but he is he did 60

1015
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,760
minutes australia i was really really

1016
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,520
impressed with him

1017
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:22,800
he also

1018
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,920
did a um a documentary called the

1019
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,880
phenomena and and he

1020
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:30,000
uh

1021
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:31,680
did an interview

1022
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:34,240
with us from australia

1023
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:37,280
that we're going to air uh about

1024
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:39,920
all people he spoke to especially in

1025
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,400
washington dc and the government

1026
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,560
that are dealing with this disclosure

1027
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,119
issue and you know he's he's a

1028
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,680
journalist he's not a ufologist like

1029
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:52,160
like jaime and i are journalists

1030
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:52,880
so

1031
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:55,520
he's got a different perspective

1032
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,640
um when he interviews and and uh we're

1033
00:47:01,589 --> 00:47:00,480
going to air that interview at the

1034
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,599
conference

1035
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:03,200
and hopefully i'm trying to get him to

1036
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:06,640
come next year in person is he going to

1037
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:09,520
australian uh people that i would like

1038
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:10,480
to have

1039
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,000
international

1040
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:16,640
this year with covid though jimmy

1041
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,040
three of our international people could

1042
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:21,119
not come one from japan

1043
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:25,760
and two from peru so it it covet played

1044
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:28,880
havoc on my guests this year because

1045
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:31,520
you know japan they couldn't even leave

1046
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,319
uh

1047
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,319
so i'm going to try to

1048
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:36,640
get the internationals to come back next

1049
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:40,240
year now this ross guy is he any good

1050
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,800
he's got he's got prime slot on sunday

1051
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,720
he's very good

1052
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,400
he's one of the best

1053
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,400
journalists in the world and

1054
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,599
somebody who does 60 minutes on on uh

1055
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:56,079
australian television yeah but anybody

1056
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,839
can say that

1057
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,000
i'm kidding

1058
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,800
everybody knows who he is

1059
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,599
the uh the book that came out in plain

1060
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,880
sight

1061
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,440
uh that's yeah i've read that i've read

1062
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:12,240
the new um skinwalker at the pentagon

1063
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,000
i'm one of those people i'm the next

1064
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,000
teacher so i'm going to read everything

1065
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:18,000
i want to know

1066
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,240
saying in their books as i hope people

1067
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:23,920
are reading trinity

1068
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:26,960
trinity is is the best seller and

1069
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:30,400
trinity is the real story of the 1945

1070
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,520
crash in san antonio new mexico i mean

1071
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:36,079
these these are the books that come out

1072
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,359
and and uh we do a lot of work you know

1073
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,520
to to produce this

1074
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:44,000
information and i'm i'm hoping people

1075
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,599
are still reading

1076
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,200
in some form

1077
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,160
um ross and i are friends

1078
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,319
i'm just like are you see i'm just

1079
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:54,400
busting your chops policy you got to get

1080
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,520
up early

1081
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,119
if you're going to go you're telling us

1082
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,880
so tell me

1083
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:01,040
you know tell me about ross i think he's

1084
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,480
amazing

1085
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:04,480
he's been on the show he's awesome he's

1086
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,630
next up though see this is the thing

1087
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:13,520
um your approach has always been

1088
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,000
different with star works and is it

1089
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:17,680
because

1090
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,760
of uh your european you know background

1091
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:24,160
and more of a world view

1092
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:25,920
on on what is going on and not

1093
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:27,200
necessarily

1094
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:30,720
a perspective from the united states

1095
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:34,319
you know you ask really good questions

1096
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,520
yes

1097
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,839
i just came back from barcelona spain i

1098
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:39,680
was invited to speak at the world

1099
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,599
ufology conference

1100
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,240
october eighth ninth and 10th but they

1101
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,240
couldn't keep me in the hotel

1102
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:49,040
i went and did three cases while i was

1103
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:50,960
there i went to see

1104
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:54,000
the uh ramon who owns the atacama being

1105
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,559
you know that little atacama

1106
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:59,280
being that was used in the movie sirius

1107
00:50:01,430 --> 00:50:00,079
uh

1108
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:01,440
that little

1109
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,960
uh it looks like a little uh

1110
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:07,280
very very very small

1111
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:08,480
um

1112
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:11,440
skeleton i went to see him i interviewed

1113
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,400
him

1114
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,200
and i got two other major stories while

1115
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:17,119
i was there which i'm going to share

1116
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:18,640
with people

1117
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,520
uh

1118
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:22,000
at the conference because if i'm in

1119
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:24,319
another country and they're bringing to

1120
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:25,280
me

1121
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,559
uh an artist that had contact in brazil

1122
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,040
and he painted the beings

1123
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:33,680
and and then and the other one that i'm

1124
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:36,400
going to talk about is the incredible

1125
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:40,240
film footage of ufos going in the water

1126
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,119
into the water near mallorca

1127
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,920
this young man has incredible film

1128
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,400
footage that that i'm going to show it

1129
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,920
in laughlin

1130
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:51,599
then i'm not going to just go to a

1131
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,280
conference i'm going to work while i'm

1132
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,240
there and that's what i was doing i have

1133
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,040
all of this new information and i have

1134
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,440
another perspective you know jimmy i'm

1135
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,119
going to be honest with you

1136
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,440
the the the only

1137
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:07,839
uh thing we're getting is the the

1138
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,480
pentagon releases and the new york times

1139
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,240
releases and

1140
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:15,440
you know the tic tacs and all that here

1141
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,480
but other places in the world all kinds

1142
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,240
of of uh

1143
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:22,559
sightings all kinds of new stories are

1144
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:25,119
coming out and i've got to cover those

1145
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,960
i can't just stay with what's happening

1146
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:28,800
in the united states

1147
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,079
now why um why do you think it is i know

1148
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:34,160
you thought about this a lot

1149
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,599
why is it that

1150
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:39,760
we try to make it

1151
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:42,319
an american phenomenon

1152
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,920
right that we don't focus enough or pay

1153
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,000
enough attention to what is going on

1154
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:50,880
globally now i'm sure e.t likes las

1155
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,119
vegas maybe even likes laughlin right

1156
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,960
i'm sure about that okay but that

1157
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,240
doesn't mean

1158
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,079
that there isn't stuff going on all

1159
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:00,160
around this planet

1160
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,040
why do you think is that frustrating

1161
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,040
very much and that's why i'm bringing

1162
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,440
people so they can tell the story from

1163
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:08,880
different countries

1164
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,960
next year it's going to be called

1165
00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:13,440
messages from the andes and i'm going to

1166
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,839
have latin american peruvian

1167
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,319
uh researchers come and tell about their

1168
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,800
latest cases because there's a lot of

1169
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:24,800
contact going on in latin america but

1170
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:27,520
you're not gonna know about it unless

1171
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,079
the actual people come up and talk about

1172
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,119
it and uh so i'm interested in that

1173
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:35,680
because like you know i i am kind of an

1174
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:39,359
expatriate i lived in italy from 1992 to

1175
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,040
2007 where i did a lot of work in europe

1176
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,200
so i have a lot of friends all over the

1177
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:48,079
world and they keep in touch with me and

1178
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:51,520
and uh especially brazil is very active

1179
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:54,559
on sunday i did a zoom out of brazil

1180
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:57,680
and got you know all kinds of stories

1181
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,319
uh and and the thing about the stories

1182
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:02,960
i'm getting from latin america and other

1183
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,079
countries is that there's contact going

1184
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,720
on we're way past just the

1185
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,119
you know the craft that are uh are in

1186
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:13,440
the sky and we're trying to figure out

1187
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:14,720
what they are

1188
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:15,520
we're

1189
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:20,000
to contactees that the contact that's

1190
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,200
going on

1191
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,839
and other places is very important it

1192
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:25,760
should be part of the mix

1193
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,319
we should be looking at all of it and

1194
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,400
then of course you know

1195
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:33,200
you see that grant cameron is speaking

1196
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,720
at the conference

1197
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,800
he's in canada so it's difficult for him

1198
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:37,839
to come

1199
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:41,119
he will be virtual but grant cameron has

1200
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:43,280
graduated the consciousness

1201
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,800
and consciousness

1202
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,800
i think is the bottom line of the whole

1203
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:48,720
entire phenomena

1204
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,079
i mean this phenomena is is uh very

1205
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,640
weird it's very unpredictable

1206
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:56,720
and i think it's being

1207
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,680
uh

1208
00:54:02,549 --> 00:53:59,920
it is being a part of consciousness

1209
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,559
that's really important for humanity

1210
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:05,040
the the raising of consciousness in any

1211
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,720
way that we can do it and so there's so

1212
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,720
much more than just

1213
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,839
the nuts and bolts ufology that i began

1214
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,800
with i began that way with alan heineck

1215
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,880
you know i worked with him for six years

1216
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:20,160
and it was

1217
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:22,880
just all nuts and bolts and you know

1218
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,079
sightings and recording traces and all

1219
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:27,440
that stuff

1220
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,240
uh

1221
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,480
we've gone way past that i just don't

1222
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,720
want to go back to that

1223
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,800
because we're past that and

1224
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,559
unfortunately

1225
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,359
in my opinion what's coming out

1226
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:41,920
is back in the heineck days you know the

1227
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:44,960
recording of the uh of the sightings and

1228
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:47,760
the you know the interaction with with

1229
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:51,119
uh airplanes and you know ships and so

1230
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,079
forth

1231
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:54,480
we are way past that

1232
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,520
and uh i'm just hoping that somehow we

1233
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:59,920
can all sit at the table someday

1234
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:01,760
and catch up

1235
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:04,640
well um oh well let me let me ask you a

1236
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:09,599
question then um i mean shouldn't it be

1237
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,440
both

1238
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:12,960
the tic tac

1239
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:15,119
uh and what's going on with the united

1240
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:18,319
states navy doesn't appear to be

1241
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,880
uh uh some kind of consciousness event i

1242
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,400
don't think they were called in by those

1243
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,839
fighter pilots and i don't think they

1244
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:27,440
reached out to the fighter pilots i

1245
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:28,960
don't think there was any telepathy

1246
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:32,319
going on that's a nuts and bolts craft

1247
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,119
uh

1248
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,520
that's a nuts and bolts situation

1249
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:37,839
play playing games

1250
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:40,640
nuts and bolts craft that knows just

1251
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,319
what it's doing

1252
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:44,880
and in the kind of plays games with your

1253
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:47,359
mind i mean those poor pilots

1254
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,480
it plays games uh and so you're looking

1255
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,480
at what the do you think it's on

1256
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:54,079
vacation i mean

1257
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:56,079
the first thing you say is what what is

1258
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,400
it doing there right it doesn't belong

1259
00:56:01,430 --> 00:56:00,000
there those are the questions that

1260
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:01,440
should be asked

1261
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:04,880
you know what what's it doing here uh

1262
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,760
it's oh i see you're really crazy yeah

1263
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,920
no now i see your point i see your point

1264
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:12,079
yeah we have moved on past that

1265
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,960
um and and i get it there is though um

1266
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,799
one of the things you've been doing this

1267
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:20,559
for a long time and i've been doing the

1268
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,520
research for for a while myself

1269
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:25,760
and i have seen

1270
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,720
this strange transition

1271
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,559
from decade to decade

1272
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,599
um not defined by the decades but

1273
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,160
but from decade to decade of different

1274
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,079
types of sightings

1275
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:40,319
and one of the things you just wrote

1276
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,799
trinity with a shock valet

1277
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,960
and and trinity is about

1278
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:46,000
uh

1279
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,160
call it a crash or a retrieval

1280
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:52,880
um but we've gotten away from that we

1281
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:55,520
haven't heard much about

1282
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:58,799
landings lately not in the last 15 years

1283
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,799
the last thing that i

1284
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:03,359
remember hearing about was the needles

1285
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:06,559
california incident back in 2008 and

1286
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:13,190
that's true the the case i'm going to

1287
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,079
bring up in laughlin though was in 2009

1288
00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:18,079
and it was a landing and it was a

1289
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:19,960
landing in a place called

1290
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:23,200
portugal in brazil which is by the way

1291
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,240
mentioned

1292
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:26,480
in the skin walker at the pentagon book

1293
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:28,640
i was shocked that that city in brazil

1294
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:30,079
was mentioned

1295
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,599
uh and i i talked to the the gentleman

1296
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,079
who's a famous artist in barcelona who

1297
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:39,280
was who saw the landing sat down and

1298
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,359
sketched the beings they allowed

1299
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:43,760
themselves to be sketched

1300
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,079
it changed to his whole style of

1301
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,960
painting his name is robert lemos very

1302
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:50,240
very famous

1303
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,359
painter

1304
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,000
and he's got a whole gallery whole

1305
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,480
entire gallery of these paintings of

1306
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,200
these beings they allowed themselves to

1307
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,359
be they knew he was a painter

1308
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:03,680
and the craft came down there was a big

1309
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:06,480
window there was a male and female he

1310
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:09,920
sat on the ground and sketched them

1311
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,119
but this happened in 2009 so i'll bring

1312
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:15,040
this news i mean even though i was

1313
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:16,799
invited to speak there

1314
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,880
and i did do the the lecture on trinity

1315
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,480
and jacques came in

1316
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,440
virtually from san francisco i was there

1317
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,000
for a week so i was working in between

1318
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:30,880
time i i went to interview this

1319
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:34,160
this artist and this really did happen

1320
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:36,079
it changed his whole life his whole

1321
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,839
painting style

1322
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:40,480
so we got a landing in puerto lense of

1323
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:44,559
brazil in 2009 so it happens but it's

1324
00:58:49,870 --> 00:58:47,760
journalists like us and heine moussan

1325
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:49,880
who has two hours he told me of

1326
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:51,440
spectacular

1327
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:55,040
uh

1328
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:00,880
to him in in mexico city he gets this

1329
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:04,640
material i go look for it because i

1330
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,520
travel so much but he actually gets it

1331
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,040
in his offices

1332
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:12,400
so we will expand on this but the

1333
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,520
average

1334
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,200
person in the united states wouldn't

1335
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:17,440
know about it i mean how would you know

1336
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,400
about it

1337
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:20,400
it's really hard you can't get it off of

1338
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:22,799
social media because you can't trust

1339
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:24,400
what you're seeing

1340
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:28,000
so it's our responsibility you know we

1341
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:30,799
in the international community to share

1342
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:33,440
this stuff

1343
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,720
the fader knots are sending me uh gold

1344
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,160
tuxedos

1345
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,720
uh the eagle has landed

1346
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,799
the eagle has landed

1347
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:44,720
i i can't wait for this this is gonna be

1348
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:48,160
great oh i'm oh i'm all in now my chips

1349
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,200
are at the center of that table man

1350
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,680
i am all in let's take our break right

1351
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:55,680
here this is fade to black i am your

1352
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,680
host jimmy church tonight paula harris

1353
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,119
is with us talking about the

1354
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:01,680
international the global implications of

1355
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:03,119
disclosure

1356
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,559
and the future of our world i'm your

1357
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,480
host jimmy church this is fade to black

1358
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:10,240
more of paul after this short break stay

1359
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:37,589
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01:00:43,310 --> 01:00:39,829
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01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:43,320
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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight paula

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harris is with us

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talking about the international the

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global implications of disclosure what

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it means

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it is you know one of the things uh

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for me uh paula when when i bring on

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guests uh uh from europe in in in south

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and central america and they talk about

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this

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i think uh the audience and myself is

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01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,799
is pretty surprised how uh we're hearing

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about this for the first time

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and and then we back up a step and go

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01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,680
well of course right it's got to be

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01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:13,039
international

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01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:16,079
um are there certain countries that are

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more comf comfortable in in discussing

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01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:21,280
the ufo topic uh you know from

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01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,430
that the united states in general deals

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01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:31,359
with more the governmental thing you

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01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:33,920
know the the disclosure or what's been

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01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,119
hidden or

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you know the deep black programs and so

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forth but if you go down to central

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01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:43,280
america or south america

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01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:45,839
i was in chile

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last year and actually it was in 2019

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and for them

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uh it is absolutely normal i i have

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01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:58,799
talked to people in the andes who tell

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01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:01,920
me they've had contact with space people

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01:07:06,549 --> 01:07:03,839
and they go back to doing what they were

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01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:06,559
doing you know it's absolutely

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historically different and i think the

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01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:11,440
reason for that is is that the united

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01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:13,839
states is a new country doesn't have the

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01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:16,640
historical perspective that these other

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01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:18,960
countries have these other countries

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have indigenous people the aztecs the

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mayans

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and and their indigenous people know

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that we've been visited forever i mean

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it didn't happen and it didn't even

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happen in in in 1945 you know that's

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01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:36,079
we're talking about ufo crashes then but

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the contact has been going on forever

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01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:41,520
and you know i think also in the united

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states if you wanted to to talk to

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01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,640
people in the lakota sioux tribes and

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and in the uh you know the native

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01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:50,799
american tribes you'd find out it was

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normal it's part of their history

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01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:56,559
and and it's a different perspective

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01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,280
and i think that even though i'm not

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01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,200
trying to discredit all the latest

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01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:03,200
disclosure in fact my own children

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01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:04,880
didn't think i was

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credible until the new york times came

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out with it and then they called me they

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01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:12,799
said oh mom there's ufos the new york

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01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,839
times said i said okay

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01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:17,520
what do you think i've been doing for 40

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01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:20,319
years right it's uh it's

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01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:22,960
it you know that makes it legitimate but

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01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:25,600
the historical perspective

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01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:26,400
the

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uh gives you

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an idea that for them it's no big deal

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01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:38,400
it just is part of their history

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and uh and one of the reasons jimmy and

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i and i talk about this a lot

1532
01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:48,000
is that our field here is mainly

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01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:50,799
um filled with uh the abduction

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01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,400
phenomena or the the uh you know the the

1535
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:57,359
more fearful kinds of things that happen

1536
01:09:02,550 --> 01:08:59,679
and and they don't talk about the human

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01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,560
type alien situation or the human aliens

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or the and and

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01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:06,560
that historically

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01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:10,239
if you go back to the 1950s and 60s in

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01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:13,839
giant rock in joshua tree it was only

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01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,560
space brother movement it wasn't until

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01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:18,239
the 60s that we

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01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:21,440
you came across the the grays and you

1545
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:24,080
know the abduction stories and all that

1546
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:26,239
and now it's remain there you very

1547
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,480
rarely hear about the space brother

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01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:30,960
anything but you'd have to do you'd have

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01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:33,600
to do the history you'd have to look at

1550
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:36,400
what happened in uh you know in giant

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01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:38,799
rock you know the van tassels the the

1552
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,400
mengers the adamski's the the orpheo

1553
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:44,319
angelucis you'd have to go back there to

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01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:47,199
see the history of ufology and that's my

1555
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:49,520
one big you know

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01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:52,480
gripe with with our research community

1557
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:54,640
is that they they haven't looked at the

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01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,640
whole entire history

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01:10:02,310 --> 01:09:59,040
of it because it's changed

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01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,320
uh our history has changed what we focus

1561
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,679
on now

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01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:05,040
is different

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01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,320
than what we focused on in the 1950s

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01:10:12,390 --> 01:10:10,000
uh and so

1565
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:12,400
i think that whoever was visiting us and

1566
01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:15,040
they were people in the 1950s went down

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01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:16,640
to latin america

1568
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:19,040
and and there's a lot of that contact in

1569
01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:22,640
the chilka desert with sister passwells

1570
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:26,320
and and uh ricardo gonzalez

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01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:27,120
um

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01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:30,800
luis fernando uh you know roberto de la

1573
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:33,440
gala that i was going to have this year

1574
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,640
that have had physical contact and

1575
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,640
i'm really sad in a lot of ways because

1576
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:41,040
i can't bring these guys uh to talk

1577
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,159
about this

1578
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:45,120
because it's been very difficult to even

1579
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,679
do this conference with the covet

1580
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:49,600
restrictions and with everything and i

1581
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:52,239
and by the way i do have to say

1582
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,120
everybody has to wear a mask in in vegas

1583
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:57,280
because that's those are the rules

1584
01:11:02,790 --> 01:10:59,120
especially with

1585
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:02,800
uh bigger gatherings the way we have

1586
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:05,920
oh so it's there's a mask mandate in in

1587
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:07,440
laughlin

1588
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,920
absolutely yes otherwise they'll close

1589
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,440
me down

1590
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:14,640
that can't happen uh yes there is a mask

1591
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:17,280
mandate in laughlin and in all vegas

1592
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:18,480
indoors

1593
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,280
uh

1594
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:21,120
indoors indoors

1595
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:22,000
so

1596
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,000
yeah that's the only way i could do it i

1597
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,040
had to cancel it last year right um

1598
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,000
because it was very tricky actually uh

1599
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:31,920
star works is one of the only live

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01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,640
conferences there there there is because

1601
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,080
everything else

1602
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:38,400
was virtual this year

1603
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:40,960
so you know we we're going ahead with

1604
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,920
live uh and but we have to obey the

1605
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:46,080
rules in in vegas

1606
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:49,280
so okay uh we'll uh circle back to that

1607
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:50,880
and i'll talk to you about that tomorrow

1608
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:51,760
um

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01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:52,560
the

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01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,960
this is very interesting

1611
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:00,159
um

1612
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:02,800
down in central and south america or in

1613
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:05,440
in europe uh is there

1614
01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:06,480
uh

1615
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:09,679
conversations with contactees about

1616
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:14,800
reptilians or mantis beings or or grays

1617
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:17,679
or is it a bit different

1618
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:21,360
this is this is very interesting

1619
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:24,320
no there's no no reptilians or mantis

1620
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:26,960
beings uh talked about at all what

1621
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:29,679
what's what they do what's happened

1622
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:31,920
uh in latin america is there's a lot of

1623
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,800
time travel uh time travelers who are

1624
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,960
warning about the ecological problems on

1625
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,320
this planet

1626
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:40,400
the ma the messages that are coming out

1627
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:43,040
of latin america are mainly ecological

1628
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:44,719
in other words we're going to have

1629
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:47,920
problems with water where the planet

1630
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:51,440
itself is on a downhill spiral

1631
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:54,560
people need to wake up uh and

1632
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:56,960
they are concerned about

1633
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,400
our survival

1634
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,199
in general and those are the messages

1635
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:03,600
that are coming out of latin america

1636
01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:06,800
the messages that came out of of italy

1637
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:10,800
in with the friendship case in 1956

1638
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:13,840
uh and you know those were human type

1639
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,239
beings too uh and

1640
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:18,480
they basically talked about the use of

1641
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:21,760
nuclear as as self-destructing

1642
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:25,440
uh and there was also a case called a

1643
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:26,960
friendship case

1644
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,719
in chile called

1645
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:31,199
in chile the island of chilliway and i

1646
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,719
interviewed those

1647
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:34,880
people down there that had the actual

1648
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:37,679
contact with the beings and the beatings

1649
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:40,640
were nordic like uh and they were they

1650
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:43,600
explained uh that that they their beings

1651
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,760
were high technologically

1652
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:46,880
advanced

1653
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,880
they also could heal

1654
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:49,760
uh

1655
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:52,320
and that they had interaction with the

1656
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:55,199
people of chile uh and

1657
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,400
you know

1658
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,000
i think the the

1659
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,400
use of technology and i remember

1660
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:02,480
clifford stone telling me said you know

1661
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:04,960
paula he said the problem with

1662
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:07,440
the human race is that we are not

1663
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:10,560
growing spiritually with our technology

1664
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,199
there's less responsibility for the

1665
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:15,440
technological advances

1666
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,480
uh and

1667
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:18,560
even the ones we don't know about or we

1668
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:20,239
don't hear about

1669
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:22,239
god bless clifford stone we're doing a

1670
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:25,120
memorial uh to paul hellyer clifford

1671
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:29,120
stone angela joyner and so many of the

1672
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:32,159
great people at laughlin you know they

1673
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,920
were friends of mine they're people i

1674
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:35,280
worked with

1675
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:38,560
and uh in in these warnings i mean it

1676
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,280
doesn't take a rocket scientist to see

1677
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,000
that the planet is not in good shape

1678
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,400
and and that somebody is noticing and

1679
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:49,040
somebody wants us to survive this

1680
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:53,360
so it isn't all you know scary and

1681
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:56,880
fear-based and as far as the the grazer

1682
01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:59,199
the mantis and so forth i remember

1683
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,360
colonel corso was a very close friend of

1684
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:04,080
mine telling me that there were 52

1685
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:07,040
different species categorized in in the

1686
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:08,239
pentagon

1687
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:11,120
and and uh and when clifford stone told

1688
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:14,400
me they were 57 and that he had a manual

1689
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:17,199
that showed you know designs of them

1690
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,679
because he did crash retrieval then

1691
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:21,920
we're not talking just about grey's

1692
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,960
reptilians and you know nordics i mean

1693
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:26,880
we shove them in three categories which

1694
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:27,600
is

1695
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:30,080
you know what he called the the virginia

1696
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:32,719
case that james fox is working on it

1697
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:34,880
doesn't go in any of those categories

1698
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:38,000
and it's uh and it was a brazilian case

1699
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:39,760
and the brazilian case that i just

1700
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,640
talked about now the two the beings that

1701
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:44,480
allow themselves to be painted they

1702
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:48,159
don't look like any any of those either

1703
01:15:55,270 --> 01:15:51,679
so you know i i think we there's such a

1704
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,280
thing called alien racism

1705
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:58,080
or e.t racism where we tend to make it

1706
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:01,040
so simple and it's very complex yeah

1707
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:03,040
aliens matter too

1708
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:11,430
this is very interesting to me

1709
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:15,199
where we have um hundreds of thousands

1710
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:17,679
of contactees in the united states that

1711
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:19,199
have talked about

1712
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:21,199
uh uh

1713
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,880
these situations where there were

1714
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:25,120
multiple races in the room but

1715
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:29,760
uh a a mantis being you know a reptilian

1716
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:34,800
um nordic and if this isn't if this

1717
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:36,960
isn't something that it that is

1718
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:39,199
happening as frequently down in central

1719
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:41,679
and south america and internationally i

1720
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:44,800
have to ask why why do you think that is

1721
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:47,280
i think contact is very complicated i

1722
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:49,520
think that when you have contact

1723
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,159
you have an overlay of your background

1724
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:54,159
uh and you tend to interpret it the way

1725
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:55,760
you were raised

1726
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:58,159
or you you tend to interpret it you

1727
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:00,159
gotta put it in a box jimmy otherwise

1728
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:03,520
you go insane right uh and you know i

1729
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,280
think that the people have been raised a

1730
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:07,040
certain way are going to interpret it a

1731
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:08,320
certain way

1732
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:10,960
they have to i i mean

1733
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:12,480
can you imagine

1734
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:14,400
how traumatic that is

1735
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:17,600
uh so the the only difference between

1736
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:19,440
those people and me is i have no box i

1737
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:22,480
have no idea i have no idea what it is i

1738
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:24,880
have no idea what it's about and i'm

1739
01:17:29,830 --> 01:17:27,600
open to all possibilities

1740
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:29,840
but i'm i'm reporting to you what's

1741
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:32,000
what's been told to me well you were

1742
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:33,040
there

1743
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:35,760
you know i've been to um

1744
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,320
to colombia to argentina a lot to chile

1745
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:42,960
because i've been in the atacama desert

1746
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,560
twice and i've been to peru the andes

1747
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:48,640
and they never talk about little grey

1748
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:51,440
beings ever no they talk about the space

1749
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:54,400
brothers well and these people

1750
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,120
um let's say the video

1751
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:00,239
of you in the desert uh down in south

1752
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:03,040
america from last year where was that or

1753
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:04,480
two years ago

1754
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:05,360
okay

1755
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:09,600
uh we did a tour of peru uh we started

1756
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:12,560
in lima and and it was really hard on me

1757
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:13,679
because

1758
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:15,920
i don't do well in in

1759
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:17,199
in 15

1760
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:20,719
000 feet 10 000 feet andes

1761
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:25,440
um and we went into we went to um

1762
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:29,120
uh young guy and siobhan and some of the

1763
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:32,560
ancient places in fact i saw elongated

1764
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:34,400
skulls in

1765
01:18:40,229 --> 01:18:37,120
little known museums there that nobody

1766
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:40,239
goes into and i walked in and saw these

1767
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:43,600
elongated skulls in there uh and

1768
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:46,000
it was part of a film and we're going to

1769
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:47,440
show that film

1770
01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:50,560
in laughlin called making contact it's

1771
01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:53,360
the story of ricardo gonzalez

1772
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:56,080
and i i also ended up in the chilka

1773
01:19:02,550 --> 01:18:59,360
desert where cesto paz and

1774
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,560
the the young men in the 1970s saw the

1775
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:04,480
landing of the ships and went inside the

1776
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:05,440
ships

1777
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,920
so i went to all these places kind of

1778
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:09,520
relived what

1779
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,800
were they

1780
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:12,640
had all their contacts because i wanted

1781
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:15,280
to see i wanted to be there i wanted to

1782
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:16,800
experience it

1783
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,560
and it's a whole different narrative

1784
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,480
than what we experience in the united

1785
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:22,640
states whole different

1786
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,800
and i talked to the common people you

1787
01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:27,679
know i mean we were in a b and b and

1788
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:30,400
we were under the mountain

1789
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,080
uh in um

1790
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:34,480
in the andes uh this is the tallest

1791
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:37,440
mountain in the world and and uh i was

1792
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:40,080
in this bnb and this little old lady was

1793
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:42,400
cooking us some dinner and i walked in

1794
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,239
and i said did you ever see the beings

1795
01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:46,560
that live in that and in that base in

1796
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:49,600
the mountain she said oh yeah my husband

1797
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:51,360
sees them a lot when he goes hiking and

1798
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,280
he goes she said two of them came down

1799
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,440
and spoke to my children in their

1800
01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:58,080
bedrooms when they were 10 years old

1801
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,159
and then she went back to cooking

1802
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,239
and i thought oh my god you know i'm

1803
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:04,080
standing there with my mouth open

1804
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:05,440
thinking

1805
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:07,040
it's that normal

1806
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:07,920
i mean

1807
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:11,040
she said two of them talk to her kids

1808
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:13,120
you know because they're people right

1809
01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:15,040
we're dealing with people

1810
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:16,000
and

1811
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:20,719
boy do i i have to adjust my brain

1812
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:22,960
uh you know because i'm talking to

1813
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:25,199
people who don't want to be on tv don't

1814
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:26,960
want to make money it doesn't become

1815
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:29,440
about them i'm talking to the normal

1816
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,080
people the farmers in the fields and the

1817
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:35,040
in the you know the the the people who

1818
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:37,360
live in these villages they're villages

1819
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:38,400
they're not

1820
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:41,360
sky crate skyscrapers cities

1821
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:44,400
uh and i've come to the conclusion that

1822
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:48,000
i think that that some of these visitors

1823
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:49,840
and by the way these particular people

1824
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:51,120
were time travelers because they

1825
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:52,480
predicted

1826
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:55,120
a lot of the events on the planet

1827
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:57,120
so then i had to wrap my mind around

1828
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:58,840
time travel and that's so

1829
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,040
hard uh

1830
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,040
you know i it's hard for me to figure

1831
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:05,360
that out i know it's possible

1832
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:08,400
but it's hard for me to to you know

1833
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:10,400
actually digest that

1834
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:13,360
that there are some civilizations that

1835
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:16,719
travel in time and uh then i have it's

1836
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:18,400
so complex

1837
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:25,920
uh it should be an academic study and i

1838
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,840
will always say that because i'm an

1839
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:29,040
educator

1840
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:31,120
uh this we should be studying this in

1841
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:32,880
the university

1842
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:34,719
you know we should be

1843
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,440
looking at all these cases we should be

1844
01:21:41,830 --> 01:21:39,280
sitting together putting pieces of the

1845
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:41,840
puzzle together instead we all have a

1846
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:44,560
separate piece and we won't get together

1847
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:48,800
now did you make contact uh in peru

1848
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:50,159
no well

1849
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:52,880
i didn't make contact but boy did i have

1850
01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:56,400
experiences that were totally weird uh

1851
01:22:04,470 --> 01:21:59,120
and they were usually at night and in

1852
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:06,310
in the atacama desert

1853
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:11,920
where i was i just felt like there was

1854
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:14,159
something in this field and i went in

1855
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:16,560
there all the trees lit up they just

1856
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,480
little lit up

1857
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:20,639
and i thought something's there i don't

1858
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:23,600
know what it is i wasn't scared

1859
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:25,280
because i had the feeling i was supposed

1860
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,400
to go there it's uh and i wasn't alone i

1861
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,880
had mark mcnabb following me with the

1862
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,159
camera and

1863
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,080
actually he'll be in laughlin because

1864
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:36,320
that's the film they're gonna show

1865
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:37,600
because they

1866
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:39,679
have several um

1867
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:41,760
sightings that they were able to record

1868
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:44,159
with fantastic cameras

1869
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:47,280
so is there more contact there yes it's

1870
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,639
more isolated and as far as contact with

1871
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,800
the people they consider it part of

1872
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:54,400
their history

1873
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:58,480
now i remember you telling me once

1874
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,000
i don't know if it was on the show if it

1875
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:02,560
was uh just you and i talking

1876
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:04,960
but you told me about a contact

1877
01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:06,880
experience of yours

1878
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,679
um it may have been in shasta i could be

1879
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:10,960
wrong

1880
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:13,040
oh it wasn't just

1881
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:15,280
wasn't it

1882
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:16,239
but

1883
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,199
i was

1884
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:19,679
i don't talk about it very much because

1885
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,350
uh you know i seem to be brave but i'm

1886
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:29,679
not really that brave especially at 11

1887
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:31,920
o'clock at night when there's this 10

1888
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:35,040
foot tall person standing in front of me

1889
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,199
in shasta and this was with the group of

1890
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:39,679
ricardo gonzalez and they were all they

1891
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,880
were all ricardo wasn't with me but the

1892
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:44,880
five people were with me and they also

1893
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:46,480
saw the same thing

1894
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:49,360
and none of them spoke english so it was

1895
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:53,360
very difficult to you know i i was with

1896
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,560
them and

1897
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:56,400
they were looking at him and i was

1898
01:24:01,750 --> 01:23:58,000
looking at him and he was standing there

1899
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:01,760
in shasta and yes shasta must be a very

1900
01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:03,760
mysterious place

1901
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:06,080
but it was a situation that i didn't

1902
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:09,040
expect i didn't know what to do i i

1903
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,280
didn't know what the protocol was

1904
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:14,400
and there's this 10 foot tall

1905
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:15,280
uh

1906
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:17,760
nordic type beings standing

1907
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:20,719
against the tree and uh

1908
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:23,280
and and i could hear some kind of

1909
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:26,320
language that was not spanish it was a

1910
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,120
very strange language that i could hear

1911
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:31,920
as an echo it was not in my head it was

1912
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:33,840
in the trees

1913
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:38,159
um and that changed my life uh because

1914
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:39,679
even though it scared the living

1915
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:41,360
daylights out of me

1916
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:45,280
i i began to understand that this can

1917
01:24:53,110 --> 01:24:46,320
happen

1918
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,120
chester but i was with latin american

1919
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:55,280
people right so

1920
01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:58,400
uh and i thought oh my goodness what you

1921
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:59,600
know

1922
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:01,840
we got to open our minds here we're not

1923
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:04,159
alone like like uh

1924
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,800
clifford god bless him would say we are

1925
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:08,239
not alone

1926
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:11,199
we never have been alone and we've got

1927
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:12,400
to look at

1928
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:13,760
um

1929
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:16,960
our relationship to the cosmos

1930
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,199
you know we're not just flesh and blood

1931
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:21,280
people walking on this planet

1932
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,280
we're we're connected to something

1933
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:25,679
bigger and i think we forget

1934
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:28,719
that we're connected to something bigger

1935
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:30,159
the um

1936
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:32,400
uh the coin the reason why i bring up

1937
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:36,880
shasta is because of who you were with

1938
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:38,800
what you saw

1939
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:39,679
and

1940
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:41,840
it isn't that interesting where you have

1941
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,520
this latin american south american

1942
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,000
front you know circle around you

1943
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:50,400
and and what you witnessed and made

1944
01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:53,199
contact with is very similar to what

1945
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:55,679
they are witnessing down there

1946
01:26:02,550 --> 01:25:59,280
and is there a reason for that i i i

1947
01:26:06,830 --> 01:26:04,390
well

1948
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:06,840
yes because

1949
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:10,320
um i mean it gets so complicated there

1950
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:12,400
are certain places on the planet that

1951
01:26:19,030 --> 01:26:14,960
are i i would call them portals

1952
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:19,040
uh where contact can easily be you know

1953
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:21,120
facilitated but you have to find the

1954
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:24,639
places uh and chess is one of them i

1955
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:25,520
mean

1956
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:27,760
this isn't the only unusual thing that's

1957
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:30,560
happened in shasta many many many

1958
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:32,080
unusual things

1959
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:33,840
happen in shasta

1960
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:34,639
um

1961
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:38,639
once a year ricardo gonzalez and i think

1962
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:41,040
you know louis fernando has been there

1963
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:44,480
uh so as she still pauses and so forth

1964
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:46,560
they know that that's one of the places

1965
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:49,280
in the united states and whatever

1966
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:52,880
is going on can easily be manifested in

1967
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,840
that in that kind of location there's

1968
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,480
special locations around the planet the

1969
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,560
atacama desert where i've been the

1970
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:03,120
chilka desert where i've been and

1971
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:05,199
argentina uri

1972
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,639
i've been there boy that that is a place

1973
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,639
where there's sightings all the time of

1974
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:13,360
broad daylight when i was in argentina

1975
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:16,639
there's no airport near uritorqua and

1976
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:18,400
you could see the craft right in

1977
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:20,719
daylight right over your head they were

1978
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,320
flying by and i thought this is crazy uh

1979
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:26,480
and nobody noticed anymore nobody even

1980
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:27,840
looked

1981
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:30,840
because it happens very very often

1982
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,880
um i was with antonio uzi in mexico city

1983
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:36,560
and there was a craft

1984
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,120
in mexico city with uh uh and he showed

1985
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:41,600
it to me and i never look up

1986
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:43,840
so i would never seen it in a million

1987
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:47,120
years and uh antonio uzi takes the most

1988
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:49,280
incredible photos

1989
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:51,520
a day like craft that look like a dansky

1990
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,880
craft his his photos are incredible

1991
01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:56,480
and i said to him don't you leave this

1992
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,800
hotel without me because i want to see

1993
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:00,960
something and he took me over to the

1994
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,920
twin towers where we were speaking and

1995
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,360
he looked in the sky and he said look

1996
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,440
look right up there and and uh and

1997
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,440
within minutes i mean all the

1998
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:11,520
journalists were out there taking movies

1999
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:13,840
and everything and i realized the reason

2000
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:15,760
why i never see anything is because i

2001
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:17,440
never look um

2002
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,679
what a uh i've just got a minute before

2003
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:21,600
the break uh what did that craft look

2004
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:24,480
like when he pointed up

2005
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:27,360
it was it was a a very very bright

2006
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:30,880
bright bright brighter than ever uh uh

2007
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:33,520
light and it was blue sky and this

2008
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,840
bright light was stationary right over

2009
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:37,120
our heads

2010
01:28:42,629 --> 01:28:40,080
and uh the mexican television came out i

2011
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:42,639
took my movie camera on so forth

2012
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:45,280
um but you know we

2013
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:48,400
it wherever he goes they they go

2014
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:49,199
so

2015
01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:50,960
you know when he was walking i was

2016
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:53,199
hoping that he would see something

2017
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:55,440
and he did maybe it was for our benefit

2018
01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:56,560
who knows

2019
01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:59,679
uh but um it was a bright white white

2020
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:01,360
light that

2021
01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:02,880
didn't look like anything it wasn't a

2022
01:29:07,030 --> 01:29:05,280
bird it wasn't any an airplane it just

2023
01:29:09,350 --> 01:29:07,040
stayed there

2024
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:09,360
yeah very interesting circular circular

2025
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:12,080
light well when you said a damski craft

2026
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:13,760
um how how

2027
01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:16,320
from his yeah well from his his

2028
01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:17,520
apartment

2029
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:19,520
in in milano

2030
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:23,360
he if people look up antonio uzi

2031
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:26,080
it's up close close and personal metal

2032
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:28,880
right over your head it's it was his

2033
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:31,280
film footage is like nothing i've ever

2034
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:32,880
seen uh

2035
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:35,280
and and you can see it during the day

2036
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:37,040
it's daylight it's

2037
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:40,159
metal it's some of it is copper oh you

2038
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,239
can see it and he's taken all kinds of

2039
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:44,960
film footage yeah i'm looking at him now

2040
01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:47,440
uh holy crap

2041
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:49,360
okay but see people don't know about

2042
01:29:54,709 --> 01:29:51,840
these things he's just a magnet i think

2043
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:54,719
it's his wife though i think his wife

2044
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:57,520
uh i met his wife i think she's the

2045
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:58,880
contact

2046
01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:00,639
i think he takes the pictures but i

2047
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,280
think she's the contact he's seen

2048
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:05,280
pictures of his wife i'm looking at her

2049
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:08,080
now and uh did you see her eyes i'm

2050
01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:12,400
looking at her now she is crazy

2051
01:30:17,110 --> 01:30:14,800
i mean beautiful she's got these eyes

2052
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:17,120
yeah and i thought because i know both

2053
01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:18,960
of them really well i know them because

2054
01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:20,880
they're italian naturally i'm gonna know

2055
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:21,600
them

2056
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:23,360
and i thought well i'm telling you

2057
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:24,719
you're the one taking the pictures but

2058
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:26,400
it's her

2059
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:28,320
she's the one

2060
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:29,120
that

2061
01:30:34,390 --> 01:30:32,239
i think is bringing them because yeah

2062
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:34,400
you're looking at her right

2063
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:37,360
she is she's beautiful though

2064
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:39,440
she's yeah but she's got these

2065
01:30:44,470 --> 01:30:42,320
unusual eyes yeah crazy

2066
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:44,480
yeah yeah yeah these pictures of these

2067
01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:45,840
craft though

2068
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:49,280
are uh 100 percent off the hook

2069
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:51,920
i am yeah well uh jaime has been

2070
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:54,320
following this case forever so have i

2071
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,840
i've known antonio for 20 years

2072
01:31:02,310 --> 01:30:59,840
when he first came to us and we we

2073
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:02,320
didn't pay attention to him we just blew

2074
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:04,880
him off and then he kept taking these

2075
01:31:08,790 --> 01:31:07,520
photos and we get okay it's time to pay

2076
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:08,800
attention

2077
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:10,000
you you know

2078
01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:12,239
to say see something like that and say

2079
01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:14,400
oh the picture's too good right or

2080
01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:17,280
that's too clear is ridiculous it's

2081
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:19,679
ridiculous you have to know who's taking

2082
01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:22,000
the picture you have to know that you

2083
01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:23,600
know what's happening and i asked

2084
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:25,600
antonio i said how do you do this and he

2085
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,280
goes well we're sitting eating and all

2086
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:29,280
at once we get this feeling

2087
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:31,120
and it's always a feeling they get a

2088
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:33,440
feeling and then they've got this camera

2089
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:35,760
stationary on the in milano on their

2090
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:36,880
balcony

2091
01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:40,400
uh and and they start filming

2092
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:42,719
so you get a feeling uh

2093
01:31:47,590 --> 01:31:45,360
and and so

2094
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:47,600
it's incredible i mean his case is

2095
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:48,960
incredible he did

2096
01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:51,040
years and years and years ago he did

2097
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,719
come to laughlin

2098
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:53,600
um

2099
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:55,840
i don't know he and he is what he does

2100
01:32:01,830 --> 01:31:57,360
for a living

2101
01:32:05,430 --> 01:32:01,840
is he he is a clothes designer and he

2102
01:32:06,550 --> 01:32:05,440
for armani uh prive and he used to

2103
01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:06,560
design

2104
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:09,199
the clothes for lady gaga in metal

2105
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:11,440
and i thought oh my god he's designing

2106
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:13,679
these futuristic clothes

2107
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:16,719
in metal you know in lady gaga in the

2108
01:32:20,950 --> 01:32:18,480
beginning used to wear a lot of metal

2109
01:32:23,669 --> 01:32:20,960
stuff she used to wear like uh

2110
01:32:26,709 --> 01:32:23,679
helmets i'm looking at her here wearing

2111
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:26,719
his stuff and that is just awesome did

2112
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:28,480
you see that stuff well that isn't

2113
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:32,400
normal i mean if you if you do a good

2114
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:34,960
job in your research you'll know that

2115
01:32:40,709 --> 01:32:37,280
this is coming through his head this

2116
01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:40,719
looks like space stuff yes yeah he

2117
01:32:45,350 --> 01:32:42,480
doesn't look like space stuff to you and

2118
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,360
so lady gaga is wearing it and antonio

2119
01:32:50,470 --> 01:32:47,520
is he doesn't do it for money he's

2120
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:50,480
making money with them with uh armani

2121
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:51,440
prive

2122
01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:53,360
he's not doing it for money it's just

2123
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:55,360
part of the

2124
01:32:57,750 --> 01:32:56,480
contact

2125
01:33:00,310 --> 01:32:57,760
i mean

2126
01:33:02,870 --> 01:33:00,320
whoever is in those ships is is

2127
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:02,880
inspiring him to do that like the artist

2128
01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:04,400
in barcelona

2129
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:06,480
they have an effect on you

2130
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:08,480
i've got to take a break uh we just blew

2131
01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:10,320
past it let me get this in

2132
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:12,159
fade to black i am your host jimmy

2133
01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:14,320
church tonight paula harris is with us

2134
01:33:22,229 --> 01:33:18,880
i'm looking at antonio stuff right now

2135
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:22,239
antonio erzie just just just google that

2136
01:33:27,590 --> 01:33:24,960
you're gonna get the his craft

2137
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:27,600
and his craft of designing clothes this

2138
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:28,880
is fade to black i'm here with jimmy

2139
01:33:34,130 --> 01:33:37,990
[Music]

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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2200
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[Music]

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you are listening to fate to black with

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hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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revolution will not be televised the

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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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good

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm really

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simply church tonight paula harris is

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she is with us and star works usa is is

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coming up next week and i'll be out

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there on thursday

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uh just go to starworksusa.com tickets

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info uh the schedule

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of course lodging at the aquarius hotel

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and casino and it's an awesome casino

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right there on the river in in laughlin

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01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:32,960
lots to do

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uh so just visit starworksusa.com

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and i'll see everybody there the

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question i have where am i going to put

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01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:45,830
right there where our booth is when you

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01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:48,239
first come in you could you know there's

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uh that that whole area is huge yes it

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01:39:57,109 --> 01:39:53,040
is so

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yeah so we're our uh we use that for

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our tables

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in that lobby we just use that lobby

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01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:02,800
which you know really decorates the

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01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:04,400
lobby because there's everything out

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there

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01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:07,920
yeah it's great it's great it's great

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01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:10,719
it's it's such a great casino

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01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:12,320
and i i

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01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:14,719
okay i'm just going to say one thing

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01:40:19,270 --> 01:40:17,520
that italian restaurant and the pizza in

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that place

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01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:21,040
oh is that where you want to go because

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that's where

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you're invited to dinner thursday night

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01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:26,320
yeah yeah okay you're gonna be there

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01:40:30,149 --> 01:40:28,159
yeah yeah yeah that oh man that that

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01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:30,159
restaurant is amazing

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01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,239
you want to go there yeah okay all right

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01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:34,880
tell stacey you know um just to let you

2275
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:37,679
know stacy and dan are probably figuring

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01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:39,679
out a way to get those robots to drive

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01:40:42,229 --> 01:40:40,800
that car

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and uh

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i'm sure they've been living with the

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robots for a weekend and they're telling

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01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:48,960
me that they have to reprogram one of

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01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:50,800
them because he's doing ballet and all

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01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:52,719
kinds of dances in their living room and

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01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:55,840
i'm going what and she said

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01:41:01,510 --> 01:40:59,119
there it's voice activated and so

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she was talking about what all at once

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01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:04,159
it'll start coming alive i'm convinced

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01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:07,440
that these things eventually have a mind

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01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:08,800
of their own

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that's ai for you it's our future

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it's so

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01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:17,679
so weird and i have to ch uh robots from

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china

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01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:21,199
that are supposed to say certain things

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01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:23,119
but they're saying other things and i'm

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01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:24,239
going

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01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:26,639
was that programmed into them or did

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they feel that they could say these

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things

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and and uh so i'm i'm very fascinated

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with ai jimmy i mean

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it

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part of a conference you know their

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their futuristic kinds of uh

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subjects and they in and i love that

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jock i hope he talks about it he's

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speaking on his own on friday and then

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01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:58,400
we're doing the keynote

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01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:02,000
uh on on on saturday when we have one of

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the witnesses

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to the the 1945 crash with us

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and but i'm hoping that on friday he's

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he's going to continue the the subject

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of ai artificial intelligence and

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consciousness

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yeah i i hope so too uh just continue uh

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the the conversation we started last

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week on fade to black which was

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absolutely amazing i i want to ask you

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i've never asked you this question

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back in 1979

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what

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01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:41,280
land in this community

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01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:42,639
well

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01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:44,800
you mean when it when i met heineck by

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01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:47,600
accident like i met valet by accident

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01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,320
like i met colonel corso by accident

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01:42:55,189 --> 01:42:52,159
uh you know

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01:42:58,629 --> 01:42:55,199
in 1979 i saw i was teaching science

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01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:58,639
fiction in high school and i went to see

2331
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:00,960
close encounters of the third kind and

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01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:04,639
at the very end uh that scene uh with uh

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01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:06,320
francois truffaut where he has the

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01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:08,880
contact you know he puts his hand out

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01:43:14,709 --> 01:43:12,080
i started to cry and i didn't understand

2336
01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:14,719
what was why i had that reaction i i'd

2337
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:17,520
never seen ufos i wasn't interested it

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01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:19,360
was not my deal

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01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:21,360
in fact i was an elvis groupie believe

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01:43:24,629 --> 01:43:23,760
it or not

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01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:24,639
not

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01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,440
i was teaching the class of science

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01:43:34,310 --> 01:43:31,440
fiction began to read about the

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pascagoula mississippi case all these

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01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:37,920
cases and i said this this astronomer

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01:43:43,270 --> 01:43:40,719
that you know was the uh the guiding

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01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,280
light for spielberg's film he's in in

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01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:45,760
evanston illinois and i was at a

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01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,000
a wedding up there i happened to go to a

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01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:49,920
wedding up there and of course nobody

2351
01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:52,639
would go with me i went to the center

2352
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:54,880
for ufo studies and i talked to the

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01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:57,440
secretary i never thought he was there

2354
01:44:02,470 --> 01:43:59,440
in a million years not in a million

2355
01:44:04,629 --> 01:44:02,480
years and here comes alan heineck from

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01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:04,639
around the corner with his pipe with his

2357
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:07,119
famous pipe which he had with him all

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01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:08,320
the time

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01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,000
and he said to me i hear you speak

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italian and i said yes i am italian and

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01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:14,880
he said would you work with me said

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01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:16,639
there are so many cases they're sending

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01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:18,080
me from italy

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01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:20,480
and he said i really need your help and

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01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:23,119
and uh and then i he would come to

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01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:26,960
colorado i went on vacation with with

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01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:31,199
him and mimi uh in in santa fe i became

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01:44:35,750 --> 01:44:34,159
a family member member that's why i'm so

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01:44:37,669 --> 01:44:35,760
close to paul

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01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:37,679
paul was a kid

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01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:40,159
paul heineck will be at laughlin so we

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01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:42,159
have heinek valley the

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01:44:49,510 --> 01:44:46,080
the joining of heinek valley again um

2374
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:49,520
and so i became very close to him

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01:44:53,189 --> 01:44:50,560
and

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01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:53,199
uh from that point on my my biggest

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01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:55,600
story was colonel phillip corso

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01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:56,480
and

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01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:58,639
when of course when they sent me to to

2380
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:00,800
do that story

2381
01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:02,719
i didn't know what he looked like and

2382
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:04,320
never read the book i didn't know what i

2383
01:45:08,149 --> 01:45:06,320
was doing and i didn't know how i was

2384
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:08,159
going to do the story

2385
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:09,040
and

2386
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:11,440
everybody everybody that was famous from

2387
01:45:16,310 --> 01:45:14,560
you know bud hopkins linda howe uh john

2388
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:16,320
mack and everybody was at the sally

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01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,600
poured in

2390
01:45:22,390 --> 01:45:19,920
and it should have been booked but when

2391
01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:22,400
i asked for a room the room that i got

2392
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,360
was next to colonel phillip corso

2393
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:27,760
and he walked out of that room and and

2394
01:45:32,149 --> 01:45:30,320
we started talking right away in i

2395
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:32,159
brought him to italy twice and this is

2396
01:45:35,350 --> 01:45:34,400
all pre-programmed in my life so i

2397
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:35,360
figured

2398
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,880
all right let me just do what i'm

2399
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,800
supposed to do i've been given an

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01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:40,560
assignment i hate the word mission

2401
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:44,560
mission has a religious connotation uh

2402
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:46,480
i've been given an assignment let me do

2403
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:49,040
it to the best of my ability as long as

2404
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:50,480
i can do it

2405
01:45:54,550 --> 01:45:53,040
and that's what i'm doing even now and

2406
01:45:57,350 --> 01:45:54,560
you know it started with close

2407
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,360
encounters but little did i know that i

2408
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:59,280
would be working with both heineck and

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01:46:02,070 --> 01:46:00,560
valet

2410
01:46:03,350 --> 01:46:02,080
were you there

2411
01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:03,360
uh

2412
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:06,639
when bud hopkins and and colonel corso

2413
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:09,040
had their sit down

2414
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:11,600
yep you were there that was in italy

2415
01:46:13,990 --> 01:46:13,119
right

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01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:14,000
yep

2417
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:14,880
and

2418
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,400
uh not to not to pick that apart that's

2419
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:20,320
never my intention on the show it wasn't

2420
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:23,920
it was it was not a it was not a very

2421
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:26,880
good exchange and colonel corso's turned

2422
01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:28,960
around to me and said who is he does he

2423
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:31,760
have the clearances i have

2424
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:38,310
i thought oh my goodness

2425
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,280
uh

2426
01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:41,600
yeah i'd rather not go into that we

2427
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:44,000
don't have to uh you know that that

2428
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:46,400
colonel corso was did not have the

2429
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:48,080
opportunity

2430
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:50,239
to tell the whole story which is coming

2431
01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:52,480
out now believe it or not it's coming

2432
01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:55,199
out now with the pentagon with uh you

2433
01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:57,280
know all the release of the the

2434
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,000
materials i mean back in 1998

2435
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:03,760
nobody believed there was any back

2436
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:05,119
engineering

2437
01:47:09,830 --> 01:47:06,960
and they were going oh that's crazy he

2438
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:09,840
couldn't have those pieces you know

2439
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:11,360
well he did

2440
01:47:16,229 --> 01:47:14,159
he wasn't lying he only lived for two

2441
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:16,239
years to tell about it and he did it for

2442
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:18,639
his great three grandchildren he never

2443
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:20,880
made very much money off the book

2444
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:23,440
and he and just before he died he called

2445
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:26,400
me and this is really hard on me because

2446
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,280
i've

2447
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:29,520
like clifford stone and so many i'm very

2448
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:32,000
close to him he said i'm sorry i ever

2449
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:34,000
wrote the book he said there are a bunch

2450
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,480
of vultures out there

2451
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:38,880
and and i said colonel but that's not me

2452
01:47:43,669 --> 01:47:41,440
it was like i'm not like that

2453
01:47:46,229 --> 01:47:43,679
you know i'm i'm trying to do my best

2454
01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:46,239
you know to cover the story and

2455
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:48,639
he was very disillusioned very upset

2456
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:49,679
because

2457
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:52,400
unfortunately jimmy our own people go

2458
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:54,639
after our own people yeah we see it

2459
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:57,600
every day see it every day well there's

2460
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:00,560
uh there's there's good and bad to that

2461
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,159
in in that the ufo community we don't

2462
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:06,800
have a police force right we don't have

2463
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:10,320
a vetting process and the ufo community

2464
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:13,119
over the last 50 years 60 years

2465
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:16,080
has developed a way of policing their

2466
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:18,560
own and

2467
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:21,920
that's what they do and uh

2468
01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:23,840
it it's sometimes it's it's very

2469
01:48:27,430 --> 01:48:26,400
effective at other times it's not

2470
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:27,440
and

2471
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:29,199
now today

2472
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:31,119
in 2021

2473
01:48:36,709 --> 01:48:34,159
with social media and trolling

2474
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:36,719
some people think it's just acceptable

2475
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:38,159
to be

2476
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:40,080
a doofus some people think it's

2477
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:42,000
acceptable to

2478
01:48:48,149 --> 01:48:42,960
uh

2479
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:48,159
and things and it should never be that

2480
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:51,280
way it's okay to be a skeptic and to

2481
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:53,600
to go and vet our own we don't have

2482
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:55,840
anybody else to do that process

2483
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,560
but social media today is is allow this

2484
01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:00,719
to be ugly

2485
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:02,400
yeah it has and

2486
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:05,840
uh my my uh advice is

2487
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:07,840
um we're never gonna get to the truth

2488
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:09,600
unless people sit down at the table and

2489
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:11,280
start putting the pieces the puzzle

2490
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:13,440
together i have pieces that nobody else

2491
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:14,480
has

2492
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:20,320
you know and if we could just take the p

2493
01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:22,159
if we could cooperate

2494
01:49:26,870 --> 01:49:24,239
uh and and share

2495
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:26,880
research and and i of course there

2496
01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:28,239
aren't a whole bunch of people to do

2497
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:31,040
field research i don't do thera radical

2498
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,360
research and i don't do anything on the

2499
01:49:37,589 --> 01:49:35,760
phone i have to look at the person

2500
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:37,599
i have to be there i have to go to the

2501
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:39,920
location otherwise i could have never

2502
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:43,119
done 1945 on the phone it's like i've

2503
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:44,960
been to the to the

2504
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:47,760
to san antonio at least 20 times i was

2505
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:49,360
there two weeks ago

2506
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:52,159
at the crash site i mean i i keep going

2507
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:53,920
back because there's new things to

2508
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:56,960
discover i could not do this work

2509
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:00,159
unless i actually went to the places

2510
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:03,520
um and and and that doesn't happen very

2511
01:50:07,109 --> 01:50:04,880
often because it's

2512
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:07,119
money it's it costs money it's time

2513
01:50:09,430 --> 01:50:08,560
consuming

2514
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:09,440
um

2515
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:11,760
so i've been lucky enough to just

2516
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:14,400
just do it just do the traveling

2517
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,280
but i i suggest that we share

2518
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:19,040
our research and

2519
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:21,199
try to put this puzzle together because

2520
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:24,159
as long as we hold our individual pieces

2521
01:50:29,109 --> 01:50:26,080
nothing will ever happen

2522
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:29,119
disclosure will never come out

2523
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:30,880
now uh

2524
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:32,000
the

2525
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:34,320
uh oh i wanted to mention this really

2526
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,280
quick uh if anybody wonders about ai

2527
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:39,360
being a part of our lives

2528
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:41,199
just

2529
01:50:44,149 --> 01:50:42,880
go to netflix

2530
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:44,159
right go

2531
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:45,840
go to amazon

2532
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:47,040
uh

2533
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:49,840
amazon prime and and look at the menu

2534
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:53,040
there they know what you want to see

2535
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:55,920
before you see it right

2536
01:51:00,629 --> 01:50:59,040
and and i don't have in my menu

2537
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:00,639
selections

2538
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:03,280
anything that i don't want to see

2539
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:06,880
they don't the ai uh

2540
01:51:10,629 --> 01:51:08,800
that type of intelligence is right there

2541
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:10,639
in our daily lives

2542
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:13,760
um and and look at the way uh

2543
01:51:20,550 --> 01:51:17,199
facebook uh the amazon website

2544
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:20,560
uh any of that today has got

2545
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:23,520
intelligence behind it they know exactly

2546
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:25,920
what you want and and what you need

2547
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:28,560
before you even think about it

2548
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:30,320
you know and when you see something pop

2549
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:32,320
up oh i want to read that news story

2550
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:35,040
that's interesting it's not there by

2551
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:36,639
accident

2552
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:38,400
it's not there

2553
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:41,520
why why is it so appealing to you

2554
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:44,960
ai thinks it's appealing to you

2555
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,520
and it knows that it's appealing to you

2556
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:49,920
and you click on it and that's that's

2557
01:51:54,270 --> 01:51:52,800
the word that we live in today paul

2558
01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:54,280
yeah i know but people have

2559
01:52:01,830 --> 01:51:57,760
relationships with siri and they have

2560
01:52:03,030 --> 01:52:01,840
and all the other women type uh you know

2561
01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:03,040
uh

2562
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:06,639
ai type you know requests that they have

2563
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:09,679
i mean there's you can name everything

2564
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:13,520
as ai your car everything is ai it's

2565
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:16,239
just that it needs to be you know

2566
01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:18,960
monitored and it's better to know about

2567
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:21,199
it that's why i you know wanted to do

2568
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:25,040
the conference on ai um but let me add

2569
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:27,599
before people think it's all ai that we

2570
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:31,119
also have like jim myers who who's going

2571
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:33,520
to talk about bigfoot so when i say it's

2572
01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:36,880
all the above and beyond uh he has a big

2573
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:39,119
museum here in bailey colorado an

2574
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,880
incredible incredible uh museum with and

2575
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:44,639
he has incredible knowledge he has

2576
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:46,239
firsthand knowledge

2577
01:52:50,950 --> 01:52:48,400
so he's also there

2578
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:50,960
so i've i've included a whole bunch of

2579
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:53,360
different subject matter in in this

2580
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:54,960
year's conference

2581
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,320
and uh

2582
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:58,960
you uh going back to the international

2583
01:53:01,430 --> 01:53:00,320
aspect of this

2584
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:01,440
uh

2585
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:03,679
you just recently

2586
01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:06,239
uh i only know this because you told me

2587
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:07,119
and i

2588
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:09,920
interrupted it uh the best that i could

2589
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:12,639
uh you were interviewing a contact he

2590
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:14,159
from spain

2591
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:17,920
um can you talk about that a little bit

2592
01:53:24,229 --> 01:53:21,040
well it's the it's the artist it's uh

2593
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:24,239
robert lemos that that had the contact

2594
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:27,280
uh in in portugal

2595
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:29,599
in brazil he had a girlfriend in brazil

2596
01:53:34,629 --> 01:53:33,119
they were he was there in 2000

2597
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,639
uh and

2598
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:36,719
you know was walking in the savannah

2599
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,199
there and this craft landed it was a

2600
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,520
city he said you could in fact

2601
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:43,199
um

2602
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,840
when i'm gonna first do it uh in

2603
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:48,000
laughlin i've got all of the paintings

2604
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:50,320
that he did of this craft

2605
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:52,400
uh with all the people looking at the

2606
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,560
top part of the windows because he said

2607
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:56,719
there were people on the top part and

2608
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:00,159
these two figures in this big uh big

2609
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,320
kind of window on the bottom that

2610
01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:04,480
allowed him to paint them

2611
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:07,040
and and i said well did they communicate

2612
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:08,800
with you he said no he said that they

2613
01:54:12,790 --> 01:54:10,560
knew i was a painter

2614
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:12,800
so he he showed me the first sketches he

2615
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:14,719
did because i was at his museum in

2616
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:16,239
barcelona

2617
01:54:20,470 --> 01:54:18,320
he did sketches and they filled him in

2618
01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:20,480
with watercolors and then he used oils

2619
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:21,520
and and

2620
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:22,639
i'm going

2621
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:27,280
why did these people pick this guy

2622
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:28,960
to paint them

2623
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:32,239
and these people have at a semblance a

2624
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:35,199
little bit like the uh the virginia

2625
01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:37,679
being they look a little bit like the

2626
01:54:43,030 --> 01:54:39,679
virginia being because you know

2627
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:43,040
the virginia being was uh had uh

2628
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:46,239
he had kind of a brownish skin and these

2629
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:49,520
these kind of round red eyes

2630
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:52,239
and completely different you'll you'll

2631
01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:54,080
see it and then i'm going to put it on

2632
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:56,560
my website i'll put it on my youtube

2633
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:58,480
because i did the interview with him

2634
01:55:02,149 --> 01:55:00,800
sunday but i had done all the

2635
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:02,159
photographing

2636
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:04,560
of his paintings and sculptures while i

2637
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:07,199
was in the while i was in his

2638
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:09,920
uh studio in downtown barcelona how do

2639
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,920
you spell his last name how do you spell

2640
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:13,440
his life

2641
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:20,709
robert robert of you know

2642
01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:22,719
english robert

2643
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:24,000
oh wow

2644
01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:26,480
look at his work

2645
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:29,280
yeah i know it's like i'm thinking how

2646
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:31,440
come i'm here how come i'm how come i'm

2647
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:34,080
doing this jimmy's like this is not

2648
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:37,199
planned how how come i'm covering this

2649
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:39,280
and what do i want to do with this story

2650
01:55:45,189 --> 01:55:41,840
so the first thing i did is i called

2651
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:45,199
the conte i'm called the ufologist in in

2652
01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:46,400
brazil

2653
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:48,560
thiago taketi and i said you're going to

2654
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:50,000
do the story with me because this is

2655
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:51,280
from brazil

2656
01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:53,040
and he goes oh my god this is from

2657
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:55,520
brazil and i said yeah and we're doing

2658
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:59,840
this together this is called cooperation

2659
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:01,440
just didn't do the story i called the

2660
01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:04,000
brazilian guy to do it with me

2661
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:06,800
so you know this is my dream that this

2662
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:09,840
type of cooperation the same cooperation

2663
01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:11,679
i did with jacques valet

2664
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,800
i mean people need to collaborate

2665
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:17,040
so anyway we we interviewed him last

2666
01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:19,679
sunday and his work is amazing

2667
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:21,920
yeah i've seen it i've seen it so many

2668
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:24,880
times before and now i've now you know

2669
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:26,880
i'm making the connection here

2670
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:29,760
uh his stuff

2671
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:32,800
they allowed him to paint them he sat

2672
01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:34,800
down he said that his feet were burning

2673
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:36,880
because sand was so hot

2674
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:38,320
when the craft

2675
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:40,639
you know landed

2676
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:42,960
he said that the the sand was burning

2677
01:56:49,270 --> 01:56:46,480
that when he he sat he had to sit on his

2678
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:49,280
shoes not to burn himself

2679
01:56:53,990 --> 01:56:51,440
uh and uh

2680
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:54,000
and he was talking about it in detail

2681
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:55,199
i'm going to

2682
01:57:00,470 --> 01:56:57,679
to show that um

2683
01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:00,480
film footage some of the film footage

2684
01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:01,840
and uh

2685
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:04,400
you know it's it's important though his

2686
01:57:11,669 --> 01:57:09,510
it's not your run-of-the-mill case and

2687
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:11,679
it certainly isn't reptilian grey or

2688
01:57:19,310 --> 01:57:14,880
nordic these people look different

2689
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:19,320
yeah well it's kind of i can see the

2690
01:57:24,790 --> 01:57:22,480
similarities though and

2691
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:24,800
i'm looking at so much of his artwork

2692
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:27,679
now there's uh he's got it

2693
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:31,040
it's kind of a combination i could see

2694
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:32,800
that that's right i said to them yeah i

2695
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:34,159
said do you think that they were

2696
01:57:40,070 --> 01:57:36,719
reptilian he said no he said

2697
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:40,080
that they had scaly skin he said but

2698
01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:42,880
the woman had a crown on she had a crown

2699
01:57:49,189 --> 01:57:46,560
with jewels yeah i'm looking at it yeah

2700
01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:49,199
and the guy has a

2701
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:50,840
like a martial art

2702
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:54,719
suit and he has like uh you know like a

2703
01:58:00,390 --> 01:57:58,000
a japanese martial arts suit

2704
01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:00,400
he said and they i said that they

2705
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:02,639
communicate with you and he said

2706
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:04,639
only once he said when i was sleeping

2707
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:06,719
they told me that i had painted the ears

2708
01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:07,679
wrong

2709
01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:09,760
he said the ears were too big he had

2710
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:11,599
given them human ears and they he said

2711
01:58:16,550 --> 01:58:14,480
they gave me an image of what the ears

2712
01:58:18,870 --> 01:58:16,560
were really like

2713
01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:18,880
you know i'm and i'm i'm in shock i'm

2714
01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:21,440
going really i mean there's that kind of

2715
01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:22,880
communication

2716
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,360
wow wow these are incredible paintings i

2717
01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:28,239
mean i'm just i'm i am

2718
01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:31,360
i want one of these

2719
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:33,040
yeah uh

2720
01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:34,400
yeah yeah

2721
01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:36,400
yeah i i i don't have a house where i

2722
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:38,560
could put one in but i would i would

2723
01:58:43,510 --> 01:58:41,119
love one of those too and this he does

2724
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:43,520
sculpture he did sculpture them

2725
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:45,679
too so i said well if they're not

2726
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:47,679
talking to you you have no communication

2727
01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:50,320
except to fix the ears and the reason

2728
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:52,639
why is they want people to know

2729
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:54,400
on this planet that there are other

2730
01:58:57,030 --> 01:58:55,840
species

2731
01:59:00,830 --> 01:58:57,040
he looks

2732
01:59:01,990 --> 01:59:00,840
well

2733
01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:02,000
um is he

2734
01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:04,880
nice person no is this contact going on

2735
01:59:10,790 --> 01:59:07,119
in barcelona

2736
01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:10,800
no the contact was only in 2009 in

2737
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:13,679
fortulenza remember i said that that had

2738
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:15,840
been mentioned in the skinwalker book

2739
01:59:20,790 --> 01:59:19,840
yes for to lens uh brazil oh okay i got

2740
01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:20,800
you

2741
01:59:23,830 --> 01:59:22,400
it was in brazil he had a brazilian

2742
01:59:26,070 --> 01:59:23,840
girlfriend

2743
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:26,080
and he was in brazil i've lost this

2744
01:59:32,709 --> 01:59:28,320
happened i've lost track of my mind

2745
01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:35,189
his whole style of painting so naturally

2746
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:37,760
i said to him you were a famous painter

2747
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:40,000
people because he he's

2748
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:42,320
his paintings are in new york and in

2749
01:59:45,830 --> 01:59:43,520
miami

2750
01:59:48,629 --> 01:59:45,840
they're in galleries not these

2751
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:48,639
not the ufo stuff no i'm looking at his

2752
01:59:52,550 --> 01:59:50,400
other other paintings yeah his other

2753
01:59:55,189 --> 01:59:52,560
artwork is just amazing

2754
01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:55,199
this is amazing yeah but he now he's

2755
02:00:03,109 --> 01:59:58,719
obsessed all he does is paint this

2756
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,119
wow so i'm going okay you gotta i said

2757
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:04,960
why

2758
02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:07,040
aren't you afraid that you're gonna get

2759
02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:08,560
criticized he said i have been

2760
02:00:14,470 --> 02:00:11,920
criticized they think i'm crazy he said

2761
02:00:15,589 --> 02:00:14,480
but he said he had the courage enough

2762
02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:15,599
to

2763
02:00:20,550 --> 02:00:18,000
keep painting the them

2764
02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:20,560
and keep painting the scene that he said

2765
02:00:24,950 --> 02:00:22,960
this was an incredible experience he

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said it changed my life

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yeah i'm looking at one of those

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paintings here for sale it's just a

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couple on a beach

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right the neon look it

2771
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it's five grand but i can have it

2772
02:00:45,589 --> 02:00:43,990
well i i'll send you the ones that he's

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painting now if you didn't see the

2774
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beings

2775
02:00:52,870 --> 02:00:50,880
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i've looked at

2776
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yeah that's all he's painting now it's

2777
02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:56,320
like it changed his life uh and and and

2778
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the fact that it's 2009

2779
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it's now i mean are you saying do we

2780
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have contact well maybe not in new york

2781
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city

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like maybe not in denver but somewhere

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in the world contact is happening all

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over the place at right now like i've

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got to make contact with my advertiser

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so let's take our break

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this is fade to black our guest tonight

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paola harris is with us we'll be right

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back we're discussing the international

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the global implications of disclosure

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stay with

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when people aren't sure aren't sure

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[Music]

2879
02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:24,229
you want to know a secret

2880
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i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

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serious

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i couldn't stay sane without pawn needs

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on the game changer radio network

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[Music]

2888
02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:01,280
welcome back paid to black i am your

2889
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:03,599
host jimmy church tonight paula harris

2890
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:09,030
and i'm getting a text and uh from ray's

2891
02:06:13,510 --> 02:06:10,480
hobbs

2892
02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:13,520
and i'm answering yeppers

2893
02:06:18,310 --> 02:06:15,520
there you go race

2894
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:18,320
yeppers that's a race that's a good

2895
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question

2896
02:06:24,149 --> 02:06:21,440
yeah i'll get you hooked up i'll get you

2897
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:24,159
hooked up now

2898
02:06:30,229 --> 02:06:26,560
i love learning things

2899
02:06:33,510 --> 02:06:30,239
um uh paula and and tonight antonio

2900
02:06:35,589 --> 02:06:33,520
erzie i learned something that i knew

2901
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:35,599
nothing about i am so

2902
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:38,880
and and now robert liamos the

2903
02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:39,760
uh

2904
02:06:45,270 --> 02:06:41,760
this is the thing

2905
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,280
uh talking about robert when somebody

2906
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:47,440
paints something

2907
02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:49,599
they're painting what they've seen

2908
02:06:54,069 --> 02:06:51,840
right and and and that's what's going on

2909
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:54,079
here but there we were talking about

2910
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:56,639
reptilians in central and south america

2911
02:07:01,589 --> 02:06:58,560
and manchester

2912
02:07:04,390 --> 02:07:01,599
i'm gonna say this is

2913
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:04,400
reptilian well it's another race right

2914
02:07:08,629 --> 02:07:05,920
but it's not

2915
02:07:10,870 --> 02:07:08,639
it's not nordic it's not it it's

2916
02:07:13,189 --> 02:07:10,880
humanoid

2917
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:13,199
but there's something else going on here

2918
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:16,239
he saw something very specific

2919
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:17,520
and he

2920
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:22,800
trying to give us the most accurate

2921
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:25,599
representation look at these sculptures

2922
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:27,520
those those are incredible yeah

2923
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:29,440
one thing he did tell me though jimmy i

2924
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:31,679
got it because i said it was the skin

2925
02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:33,520
that color really said no it was

2926
02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:35,199
brownish

2927
02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:36,880
and i felt like saying why did you paint

2928
02:07:42,470 --> 02:07:40,400
it green then why did you paint because

2929
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:42,480
there is one or two that the skin is

2930
02:07:45,910 --> 02:07:44,800
brown because he paints he painted so

2931
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:45,920
many

2932
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:48,000
uh he said but the skin was brownish but

2933
02:07:52,550 --> 02:07:50,159
he's looking at them through a window

2934
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,560
uh i think that

2935
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:54,800
yeah i i said the same thing when it

2936
02:07:59,750 --> 02:07:57,199
when i looked at it and he said he

2937
02:08:01,589 --> 02:07:59,760
didn't think so he he just thought that

2938
02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:01,599
they had scaly

2939
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:02,639
skin

2940
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:04,880
and bumps on the top

2941
02:08:10,229 --> 02:08:07,360
and uh you know if you look really close

2942
02:08:13,109 --> 02:08:10,239
there's bumps like bumps like ridges yes

2943
02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:13,119
and then i remembered the the uh the

2944
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:15,040
virginia uh

2945
02:08:20,390 --> 02:08:17,679
one the virginia creature

2946
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:20,400
and that had three um

2947
02:08:23,350 --> 02:08:21,440
you know

2948
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:23,360
kind of um

2949
02:08:27,669 --> 02:08:25,760
bumps on the top of his head

2950
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:27,679
and and

2951
02:08:40,149 --> 02:08:38,480
because we have attached um

2952
02:08:44,149 --> 02:08:40,159
you know biblically

2953
02:08:46,310 --> 02:08:44,159
the snake to reptilians to evil to

2954
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:46,320
you know cat that thing does those

2955
02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:48,400
people don't have cat like eyes i mean

2956
02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:49,920
you could see i said did they have

2957
02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:50,960
pupils

2958
02:08:55,990 --> 02:08:52,880
and he said no they were black and i

2959
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:56,000
thought well colonel curso told me that

2960
02:08:58,870 --> 02:08:57,119
that

2961
02:09:01,350 --> 02:08:58,880
you know in the

2962
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:01,360
artifacts he had and he believes that

2963
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:04,880
the greys are clones or uh biological

2964
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:08,239
entities that he they peeled off that

2965
02:09:11,030 --> 02:09:09,360
lens

2966
02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:11,040
that everybody thinks they have black

2967
02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:13,760
eyes circular eyes that it was a light

2968
02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:15,360
collecting lens

2969
02:09:21,109 --> 02:09:18,159
and i i suggested to robert i said could

2970
02:09:23,589 --> 02:09:21,119
that instead of being an eye be a light

2971
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:23,599
collecting lens

2972
02:09:26,950 --> 02:09:25,360
just like in you know the

2973
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,960
extraterrestrial eb's the

2974
02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:28,800
extraterrestrial biological entities

2975
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:29,760
have

2976
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:32,239
and it could be well what would we know

2977
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:34,159
i mean we've been thinking

2978
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:37,440
all along that that that is an eye and

2979
02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:40,000
it's like sunglasses that they put over

2980
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:41,360
their pupils

2981
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:42,719
uh so

2982
02:09:50,390 --> 02:09:46,320
yeah so we have a lot to learn and i

2983
02:09:51,669 --> 02:09:50,400
will say that that i uh and my crew in

2984
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:51,679
italy

2985
02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:53,840
dealt with the alien autopsy in the

2986
02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:54,960
beginning

2987
02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:58,239
what my boss saw and and

2988
02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:00,719
you know i think there's some there is

2989
02:10:05,830 --> 02:10:02,800
some truth to that

2990
02:10:07,830 --> 02:10:05,840
because my when uh i was working in with

2991
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:07,840
the magazine in italy

2992
02:10:12,470 --> 02:10:10,800
uh maori zubaida who was my editor saw

2993
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,480
the original

2994
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:14,400
that santilli showed him which is not

2995
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:16,800
the one everybody else has seen

2996
02:10:21,430 --> 02:10:19,520
and so when they peel back the the lens

2997
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:21,440
the black there's a pupil underneath

2998
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:22,880
there

2999
02:10:29,270 --> 02:10:25,679
uh and so i'm thinking wow

3000
02:10:33,109 --> 02:10:29,280
we got a lot of this wrong

3001
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:33,119
we we assume because we don't know

3002
02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:35,440
so we assume using

3003
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:39,440
the uh the yardstick of what we do know

3004
02:10:43,030 --> 02:10:41,760
but it's a lot more complicated than

3005
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:43,040
that

3006
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:44,800
the uh

3007
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:47,599
the subject of disclosure

3008
02:10:52,790 --> 02:10:50,480
and again i always i i like to look at

3009
02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:52,800
the world view i have difficult

3010
02:10:57,589 --> 02:10:54,480
difficulty with that because i live here

3011
02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:57,599
in the united states and but i think

3012
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:58,960
about

3013
02:11:04,310 --> 02:11:01,440
where the united states is at right now

3014
02:11:06,790 --> 02:11:04,320
with disclosure and could they handle it

3015
02:11:09,350 --> 02:11:06,800
um but there there has to be the rest of

3016
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:09,360
the world to take into consideration now

3017
02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:10,400
too

3018
02:11:15,030 --> 02:11:12,560
if if if we

3019
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:15,040
keep marching like we are right now

3020
02:11:21,910 --> 02:11:17,840
paula into 2022

3021
02:11:24,149 --> 02:11:21,920
and this thing blows wide open

3022
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:24,159
are we okay is the rest of the world

3023
02:11:31,589 --> 02:11:30,069
i think what we have to understand is

3024
02:11:33,270 --> 02:11:31,599
not everybody is interested in

3025
02:11:36,069 --> 02:11:33,280
disclosure

3026
02:11:36,950 --> 02:11:36,079
i i i get it from the people that i talk

3027
02:11:39,669 --> 02:11:36,960
to

3028
02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:39,679
we are you and i and there and

3029
02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:41,840
several other people i mean

3030
02:11:46,310 --> 02:11:44,239
my family isn't they could care less if

3031
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:46,320
there's disclosure or not

3032
02:11:50,950 --> 02:11:47,360
um

3033
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:50,960
and i i personally will go on a record

3034
02:11:54,950 --> 02:11:52,800
saying i don't think any disclosure from

3035
02:11:58,149 --> 02:11:54,960
the government is necessarily disclosure

3036
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:58,159
i think it has an agenda behind it

3037
02:12:03,669 --> 02:12:01,760
uh and i think that if we already have

3038
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:03,679
disclosure we've had disclosure for a

3039
02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:06,880
long time if you study this and you meet

3040
02:12:10,629 --> 02:12:09,119
the people if you meet travis walton if

3041
02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:10,639
you meet the people

3042
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:13,040
uh you know that have been in this have

3043
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:15,280
you met colonel corso if you've met

3044
02:12:18,709 --> 02:12:16,800
people that have worked uh you know

3045
02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:18,719
edgar mitchell have you met people that

3046
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:20,400
have worked in these projects and so

3047
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:23,360
forth i've done so many stories

3048
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:24,960
i i've already convinced about

3049
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:27,679
disclosure it's already happened

3050
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:30,320
i don't wait for a uh

3051
02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:32,639
a newspaper or a

3052
02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:35,920
government entity to to have it be

3053
02:12:40,390 --> 02:12:38,320
real however it makes it legitimate it's

3054
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:40,400
easier when they do it because then what

3055
02:12:44,550 --> 02:12:41,760
nobody laughs

3056
02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:44,560
we've taken away the ridicule factor or

3057
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:46,880
i pray that we've taken away the

3058
02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:50,400
ridicule factor i think the only thing

3059
02:12:53,669 --> 02:12:51,520
lately

3060
02:12:55,430 --> 02:12:53,679
that that has done coming out of the

3061
02:12:58,390 --> 02:12:55,440
pentagon is take away the ridicule

3062
02:13:02,310 --> 02:12:58,400
factor however we got to be careful

3063
02:13:04,870 --> 02:13:02,320
uh i don't believe that that uh you know

3064
02:13:06,790 --> 02:13:04,880
it doesn't have an agenda i mean it is a

3065
02:13:08,149 --> 02:13:06,800
national security issue but if they were

3066
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:08,159
going to kill us they would have done it

3067
02:13:12,629 --> 02:13:09,520
a long time ago

3068
02:13:15,669 --> 02:13:12,639
1945 when we blew up you know

3069
02:13:17,270 --> 02:13:15,679
uh the atomic bomb uh it was not a test

3070
02:13:19,270 --> 02:13:17,280
as jacques said

3071
02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:19,280
so you know we went into other

3072
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,079
dimensions anything that happens here

3073
02:13:27,350 --> 02:13:24,719
is going to go into another dimension

3074
02:13:28,390 --> 02:13:27,360
and is going to affect other things

3075
02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:28,400
other

3076
02:13:33,589 --> 02:13:30,880
you know civilizations or whatever

3077
02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:33,599
so my idea of disclosure is studying

3078
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:36,320
this i this seriously

3079
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:40,480
uh from serious you know people and

3080
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:42,719
learn and find out about it yourself i

3081
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:44,560
don't need other people you know we

3082
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:47,119
shouldn't wait for other people to tell

3083
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:47,920
us

3084
02:13:55,669 --> 02:13:52,560
subject

3085
02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:55,679
and uh and find out for yourself

3086
02:13:59,189 --> 02:13:57,360
i don't think there's ever gonna be an

3087
02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:59,199
announcement and if there is there's an

3088
02:14:03,030 --> 02:14:01,199
agenda behind it

3089
02:14:05,430 --> 02:14:03,040
why um yeah

3090
02:14:09,030 --> 02:14:05,440
and i get all of that and i i've said

3091
02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:09,040
that enough myself publicly right i

3092
02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:11,440
i don't i don't need disclosure i've had

3093
02:14:17,510 --> 02:14:14,880
it but that's not that's not the case

3094
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:17,520
with with everybody else

3095
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:20,000
they need something uh

3096
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:21,360
uh

3097
02:14:26,870 --> 02:14:23,360
somebody to say something

3098
02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:26,880
way outside of my uh pay grade they they

3099
02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:29,840
want something official and they need to

3100
02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:31,760
have that and i understand the reasons

3101
02:14:34,709 --> 02:14:32,639
why

3102
02:14:37,189 --> 02:14:34,719
you and i can say this all day long

3103
02:14:38,790 --> 02:14:37,199
right we're going to get booze from the

3104
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:38,800
gallery

3105
02:14:42,310 --> 02:14:40,480
they

3106
02:14:45,589 --> 02:14:42,320
what else do you want the new york times

3107
02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:45,599
came out with that the pentagon has said

3108
02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:48,800
you know that we've had interaction

3109
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:49,679
uh

3110
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:51,520
goodness i mean

3111
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:54,000
i remember flying into ireland the day

3112
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:56,480
they released their files

3113
02:15:00,149 --> 02:14:57,920
uh i

3114
02:15:02,149 --> 02:15:00,159
england has released their files brazil

3115
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:02,159
has released their files

3116
02:15:07,750 --> 02:15:03,599
they've released

3117
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:07,760
italy has a an actual website for ufos

3118
02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:10,000
uh sightings

3119
02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,800
every government has something already

3120
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:14,400
um

3121
02:15:19,910 --> 02:15:18,159
you know so if if you study that part

3122
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:19,920
it's already every government has

3123
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:23,520
admitted there's something already uh so

3124
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:25,199
where do you want to go

3125
02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:27,199
from there well that's

3126
02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:28,960
but that's what i'm saying

3127
02:15:35,830 --> 02:15:32,000
and yeah you know for for everybody else

3128
02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:35,840
they need that last step they do need

3129
02:15:39,750 --> 02:15:37,840
the president of the united states they

3130
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:39,760
need putin they need

3131
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:40,880
uh

3132
02:15:46,550 --> 02:15:43,360
you know a a head of state

3133
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:46,560
to step forward and say okay

3134
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:48,560
we've got work to do because we are not

3135
02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:50,000
alone in the universe we're being

3136
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:51,119
visited

3137
02:15:55,350 --> 02:15:52,560
it's real

3138
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:55,360
and now we need to turn the page

3139
02:15:59,589 --> 02:15:57,840
that's what that's what people expect

3140
02:16:02,709 --> 02:15:59,599
paula and and

3141
02:16:05,750 --> 02:16:02,719
and until that happens it it is still

3142
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,760
an enigma

3143
02:16:09,830 --> 02:16:07,760
well i think it's always going to be an

3144
02:16:12,069 --> 02:16:09,840
enigma um

3145
02:16:14,709 --> 02:16:12,079
always

3146
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:14,719
even if you study this and it's been 40

3147
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:16,800
years i've been working on all this i

3148
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:19,199
still haven't got it figured out

3149
02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:21,199
right he says

3150
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:23,040
it's so weird

3151
02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:26,480
that you know it it surprises me every

3152
02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:27,520
day

3153
02:16:32,549 --> 02:16:30,000
the the benefit that i have is i have no

3154
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:32,559
box to put it in i don't call it bad or

3155
02:16:37,589 --> 02:16:35,599
good and there's no good and bad aliens

3156
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:37,599
it's like if there were a an

3157
02:16:41,270 --> 02:16:39,200
extraterrestrial here they go back to

3158
02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:41,280
their planet you know the question is

3159
02:16:45,439 --> 02:16:50,309
there's no answer to that it's um

3160
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:53,990
it is a study i i keep saying

3161
02:16:59,190 --> 02:16:56,319
the the exciting part about this and

3162
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:59,200
even probably your show and how you

3163
02:17:02,709 --> 02:17:00,639
approach this is

3164
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:02,719
it's a study you learn something great

3165
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:04,880
every day you learn something

3166
02:17:09,910 --> 02:17:06,800
it's a puzzle you're putting pieces of

3167
02:17:12,150 --> 02:17:09,920
the puzzle together every day and then

3168
02:17:14,070 --> 02:17:12,160
you figure out what it could be

3169
02:17:15,910 --> 02:17:14,080
and then and the best part about it is

3170
02:17:17,910 --> 02:17:15,920
figure out why you're even interested in

3171
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:17,920
the first place

3172
02:17:21,509 --> 02:17:19,599
the uh

3173
02:17:23,830 --> 02:17:21,519
the other parts

3174
02:17:25,429 --> 02:17:23,840
okay maybe not maybe not the president

3175
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:25,439
of the united states

3176
02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:27,280
you know and maybe that wouldn't be good

3177
02:17:34,309 --> 02:17:28,719
enough

3178
02:17:38,629 --> 02:17:36,629
they'll buy what he's selling

3179
02:17:40,469 --> 02:17:38,639
you know and i'm being

3180
02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:40,479
a little bit cavalier

3181
02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:43,200
but i think you get the point

3182
02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:47,120
yeah but i mean uh there in 2009 father

3183
02:17:51,830 --> 02:17:49,599
funes of the vatican

3184
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:51,840
came out they were afraid i think that

3185
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,840
they were going to be usurped by

3186
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:55,760
something major

3187
02:17:59,910 --> 02:17:58,080
father funes came out and said yes there

3188
02:18:02,150 --> 02:17:59,920
is extraterrestrial life and there are

3189
02:18:04,230 --> 02:18:02,160
brothers and sisters you know i've got

3190
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:04,240
all these because i used to be close

3191
02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:07,040
with monsignor balducci who was vatican

3192
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:10,960
annuncio in washington dc and and uh we

3193
02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:12,960
used to have dinner on sundays all the

3194
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:15,040
time and he represented you know john

3195
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:17,280
paul and and i thought okay they're

3196
02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:18,559
coming out with all this stuff because

3197
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:20,719
they're getting in position they have to

3198
02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:22,719
come they've got to get in the position

3199
02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:24,800
to say oh we knew about it all the time

3200
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:28,240
you know it's it's uh so all the major

3201
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:29,760
entities

3202
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,399
are getting ready for some kind of

3203
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,719
because you know i think disclosure is

3204
02:18:38,389 --> 02:18:36,479
not in our hands

3205
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:38,399
i think disclosure's in the hands of

3206
02:18:42,950 --> 02:18:40,719
whatever is visiting and what what

3207
02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:42,960
clifford stone used to call the visitors

3208
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:45,920
if they decide to show up

3209
02:18:50,150 --> 02:18:48,160
over every airport in the world at the

3210
02:18:53,270 --> 02:18:50,160
same time we're

3211
02:18:55,509 --> 02:18:53,280
you know we're in trouble here i just

3212
02:18:58,230 --> 02:18:55,519
watched um

3213
02:19:01,190 --> 02:18:58,240
uh again going back to the ai that is

3214
02:19:04,389 --> 02:19:01,200
netflix and and amazon

3215
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,399
i am flooded uh with uh

3216
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:06,639
uh et and extraterrestrial movies and

3217
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:10,800
things and i just watched risen it's

3218
02:19:14,950 --> 02:19:13,040
r-i-s-i-n

3219
02:19:17,830 --> 02:19:14,960
and i watched it last night

3220
02:19:19,270 --> 02:19:17,840
and this was a film

3221
02:19:24,549 --> 02:19:19,280
uh

3222
02:19:26,230 --> 02:19:24,559
independent film and a and a major

3223
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:26,240
release because the

3224
02:19:29,910 --> 02:19:28,639
the the cinematography and the special

3225
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:29,920
effects were excellent and the

3226
02:19:34,950 --> 02:19:31,519
screenplay was great

3227
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:34,960
but there wasn't any famous actors or

3228
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:36,719
or anybody in the film

3229
02:19:40,150 --> 02:19:38,479
excellent film

3230
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:40,160
and the way

3231
02:19:45,669 --> 02:19:44,080
that they played this out so anyway i'm

3232
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:45,679
everybody can go watch the film but this

3233
02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:47,599
is what was interesting for me paul

3234
02:19:51,910 --> 02:19:49,840
because we've we've seen every type of

3235
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,920
alien contact film that we can imagine

3236
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:53,680
right they're making them all

3237
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:56,560
this one seemed a bit different to me

3238
02:20:01,510 --> 02:19:59,439
and there seems like

3239
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:01,520
um i don't know

3240
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:03,760
i want your take on this

3241
02:20:08,630 --> 02:20:07,040
i know that the cia has a hollywood film

3242
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:08,640
division right

3243
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:09,760
they

3244
02:20:13,990 --> 02:20:11,520
and you go to the cia

3245
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:14,000
disney in the beginning they went to

3246
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:16,240
kimball at disney for disclosure they're

3247
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:17,920
going can you give us a hand here

3248
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:24,309
oh did you get cut off are you there

3249
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:27,600
oh man we lost paula

3250
02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:35,349
did you hit mute

3251
02:20:35,359 --> 02:20:41,030
you are live on my screen

3252
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:43,510
no

3253
02:20:46,150 --> 02:20:44,870
ah

3254
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:46,160
no

3255
02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:54,469
miss harris

3256
02:20:59,670 --> 02:20:56,150
huh

3257
02:21:02,070 --> 02:20:59,680
all right i am going to take a break

3258
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:02,080
and i am going to come back and reset

3259
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:05,120
that's all i can do that is strange

3260
02:21:09,830 --> 02:21:07,600
she's live right here

3261
02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:09,840
that hasn't gone anywhere

3262
02:21:14,950 --> 02:21:13,040
but she's not live here

3263
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:14,960
isn't that interesting we'll find out

3264
02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:17,359
when we come back i'm going to reset

3265
02:21:19,830 --> 02:21:18,640
up

3266
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:19,840
dropped

3267
02:21:24,170 --> 02:21:22,560
yep there you go okay i'll reset i'll be

3268
02:21:45,590 --> 02:21:24,180
right back

3269
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:47,750
you're listening to jimmy church and

3270
02:21:54,230 --> 02:21:49,280
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3271
02:21:59,429 --> 02:21:56,630
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3272
02:22:03,750 --> 02:21:59,439
you are listening to my boy jimmy church

3273
02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:06,309
despite popular opinion

3274
02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:14,710
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welcome back fade to black i'm your

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kjc are the game changer network and the

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an x network

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our murals jimmy church i guess tonight

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paula harris and uh

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yeah see this is the thing um apollo the

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the moment

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it happens enough on this show the

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moment three letter agencies

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right the vatican you start talking

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about these and and something quirky

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happens every single time what did you

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hear on your end

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a just silence

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just cut off

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it was just kind of better you were

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talking about hollywood though and

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um and i mentioned that disney had been

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approached but you know that's out there

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i mean it's not top secret if you study

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uh this whole phenomenon you know

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that disney

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was approached early on because

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if you study

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eminence in the early movies but you

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know you have to study this uh and i do

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there's been attempts

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at disclosure through films there you

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know the day the year stood still

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my god that that's straight out of the

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whole uh joshua tree

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um

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i i talked to robert short about that

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that film because he knew robert wise

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that did the film

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back in the 50s this this is all

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historical stuff i mean you know jimmy i

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wish there was like a course in you

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university

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that we could teach on this because it

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was all linked it's very interesting the

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history of all of it yeah and what i was

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bringing up is uh in this film risen

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uh

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there's seemed there there's a whole

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different take on contact

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in this film it's very very very

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interesting

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and

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uh in a strange way not not directly

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but um

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it reminded me of uh

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the film arrival

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um but not the same oh yeah yeah yeah

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right um but when you look at arrivals

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different approach to contact completely

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different

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and and so was this film uh risen

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and i'm just wondering the the

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screenwriters that are

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doing these things

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are they given information

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you know i'm being very serious you know

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something small

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right but but just enough

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to get it out there into the public

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is there somebody doing this and and

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that also includes like video games and

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and of course tv series and i'm i'm just

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wondering

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where they get their information from

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or they just listen to fade to black

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every single night and they're taking

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notes which is entirely possible too

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but they could be getting their

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information off planet

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that's my i mean it doesn't have to be

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from the back

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inspired

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i mean so many of our scientists so many

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of our creative people i think

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have been inspired somehow you know

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when i walked out of uh

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uh the theater after arrival and also

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interstellar too as well affected me

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yeah but when i walked out of a rival

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i'm just thinking to myself this this

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film is a message

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it's a great film it was entertaining i

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loved i've watched it so many times but

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it was the way that my mind was working

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after that film

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and it just seemed like there was a

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message there there is something here

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yeah and and you know there there's also

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some just entertaining films but there

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um when i was mentioning uh the the you

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know the

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disclosure might be in the hands of the

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et's i was thinking of childhoods and

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um arthur c clarke you know childhoods

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and i heard william shatner do a lot of

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readings from that

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when he used to do tours

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uh and that's how that ends uh

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childhoods and ends with uh

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the overlords being over all the

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airports and then they're taking the

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children off the planet and and these

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are great writers when i was teaching

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science fiction i was teaching

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dune every and now dune is back

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i saw dune was back i was teaching

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uh arthur c clarke i hate 2001 space

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odyssey you wanna talk about artificial

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intelligence

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i mean my god if i i should have

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included that clip in laughlin where

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they're trying to get hal to stop

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you know killing all the astronauts

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aboard

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and and uh and then hal tells

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you know dave to take a stress pill

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you know this is a computer talking to

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an astronaut and i'm thinking oh my god

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that that's a genius and that was

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i think uh way way back

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um 2001 space odyssey and

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that that has to do with ai and

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and our great writers these are all

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great writers herbert

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you know asimov and so forth and

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you know

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we had that way back when we had science

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fiction that was that great

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uh way back when that had these real

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um prophetic kinds of messages i'm

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watching foundation right now it's on um

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it's on apple uh apple plus isaac asimov

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right

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job on this and and i remember uh uh

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reading that so many years ago

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and i'm gonna have to go back and

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re-read it now and you know and i've

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done the same thing

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uh

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written

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during the movie right the the the the

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screenplay writing i should say

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um but uh going back to this

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uh

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the

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foundation

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and now there's a new series out it's

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called invasion

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and and on and on i have watched more

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alien contact tv series in the last five

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years and i have in my entire life it's

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yes and we're still at the nuts and

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um maybe we'll graduate a little bit to

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something else because it's still a

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mystery i mean

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i i

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having worked in it for this long i

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still have no answers but just the

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journey is the exciting part don't you

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agree i do i do and um i wanted to i

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wanted to circle back to something

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um

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the friendship case

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when and and for those out there uh that

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are listening right now you've heard me

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now this is like the third time this

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month the friendship case has come up on

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this show

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you really need to go and look it up

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look up friendship case italy

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and and go and and do there there's also

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a couple of really good documentaries

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that are done on it too

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um

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but we blew past it earlier in the show

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can you give an overall uh what happened

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in 1957 uh with the friendship case

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yes because i've talked to all the

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people

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right right right i i've actually i i

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couldn't do it from reading a book uh

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stefano brescia wrote the book at mass

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context but he was a good friend of mine

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and

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when he did he only spoke in the united

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states at michael salas conference in

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hawaii

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and i was there with him and he left me

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all material for the friendship case

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1956 because they call these beings w56s

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of all things

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uh w being d you know w is like victory

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uh 56s

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these there were people

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in pescada that made a deal with these

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human type beings

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that came from somewhere else

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and who had a base in the adriatic

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that they would um you know

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subsidize them and house them at

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02:34:11,030 --> 02:34:09,200
rockapia in a castle

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02:34:13,030 --> 02:34:11,040
some of them were very tall some of them

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02:34:15,910 --> 02:34:13,040
were very short

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and it was an experiment and the beings

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themselves

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02:34:22,309 --> 02:34:20,399
said i will pick 10 italians and i spoke

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02:34:25,110 --> 02:34:22,319
to the ones that are

3544
02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:25,120
still alive gospel dilemma and his wife

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02:34:28,469 --> 02:34:27,200
who live on lake como i spoke to them

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02:34:29,750 --> 02:34:28,479
about this

3547
02:34:31,670 --> 02:34:29,760
because they were part of that

3548
02:34:33,590 --> 02:34:31,680
experiment it was an experiment that's

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why it's called friendship

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02:34:39,190 --> 02:34:36,720
and the being said we will uh

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02:34:40,070 --> 02:34:39,200
communicate with you and we you will see

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02:34:42,150 --> 02:34:40,080
us

3553
02:34:45,030 --> 02:34:42,160
you can take movies of our ships and the

3554
02:34:47,030 --> 02:34:45,040
movies are incredible and they talk to

3555
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:47,040
them on the telephone and i have the

3556
02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:49,840
actual telephone conversations

3557
02:34:55,510 --> 02:34:52,160
that stefano brescia left me with the

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02:34:58,230 --> 02:34:55,520
beings and the italians and these beings

3559
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:58,240
spoke a very you know they spoke italian

3560
02:35:03,349 --> 02:35:00,720
but they made so many mistakes when they

3561
02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:03,359
were talking to the real italians

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02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:04,240
um

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02:35:10,230 --> 02:35:08,080
we will stay with you provided you keep

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02:35:13,429 --> 02:35:10,240
together as a group in other words you

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02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:13,439
keep in harmony and the harmony is the

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02:35:19,910 --> 02:35:16,479
technology that they had called ureda

3567
02:35:21,910 --> 02:35:19,920
and for 10 years the beings and the the

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italians that they had picked

3569
02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:25,840
uh were doing okay but then the italians

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02:35:29,190 --> 02:35:27,200
being human

3571
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:29,200
started to argue among themselves and

3572
02:35:33,190 --> 02:35:31,600
the beings said we cannot stay among you

3573
02:35:36,389 --> 02:35:33,200
anymore because

3574
02:35:38,389 --> 02:35:36,399
you know you are not in harmony it was

3575
02:35:41,429 --> 02:35:38,399
harmony this is why i say consciousness

3576
02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:41,439
is important they use it as a technology

3577
02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:43,840
it was a technology for them

3578
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:46,479
and so stefano would tell me individual

3579
02:35:50,870 --> 02:35:48,880
stories about these beings that were

3580
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:50,880
housed in this castle

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02:35:56,710 --> 02:35:54,479
and uh it was an experiment it was an

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02:35:58,550 --> 02:35:56,720
experiment in italy but the being said

3583
02:36:00,790 --> 02:35:58,560
that it was being done in other parts of

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02:36:03,590 --> 02:36:00,800
the world that's why i i interviewed the

3585
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:03,600
people in in chile because that case is

3586
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called friendship too

3587
02:36:09,590 --> 02:36:07,479
but the beings were nothing like the

3588
02:36:12,230 --> 02:36:09,600
w56s that were

3589
02:36:15,349 --> 02:36:12,240
in in pescada and you're right there's

3590
02:36:18,070 --> 02:36:15,359
documentaries done on them and i suggest

3591
02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:18,080
that people read 50 years of friendship

3592
02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:20,560
if they want to actually read the book

3593
02:36:25,030 --> 02:36:22,720
get the names of the beings how they

3594
02:36:27,910 --> 02:36:25,040
interacted with the italians

3595
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:27,920
read w 50 years of friendship

3596
02:36:33,590 --> 02:36:31,200
uh by stefano brisha or go online and

3597
02:36:34,550 --> 02:36:33,600
look for the documentary of this really

3598
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:34,560
happened

3599
02:36:40,870 --> 02:36:37,439
it involved uh cardinals of the vatican

3600
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:40,880
in incar uh it involved consola pedigo

3601
02:36:45,429 --> 02:36:41,840
who was

3602
02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:45,439
uh he was a a a diplomat

3603
02:36:51,190 --> 02:36:48,160
uh and it involved several people in the

3604
02:36:54,469 --> 02:36:51,200
adriatic coast so and it's real it's a

3605
02:36:58,510 --> 02:36:54,479
real story i talk to the people involved

3606
02:37:00,150 --> 02:36:58,520
and uh and i'm not surprised 56 so look

3607
02:37:01,990 --> 02:37:00,160
1956

3608
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:02,000
we were having things happening in

3609
02:37:07,510 --> 02:37:05,040
southern california in 1950s

3610
02:37:08,630 --> 02:37:07,520
uh the whole adamski stuff i mean it was

3611
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:08,640
right after

3612
02:37:14,309 --> 02:37:11,040
we had exploded the atomic bomb in in

3613
02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:14,319
the in we had eugenio cyracusa on the

3614
02:37:19,110 --> 02:37:16,560
island of of uh

3615
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:19,120
sicily who met with these nordic type

3616
02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:20,080
people

3617
02:37:26,309 --> 02:37:23,680
uh and so all around the world there was

3618
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:26,319
this attempt to communicate with humans

3619
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:28,000
but they were humans

3620
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:30,880
i mean they were human type beings

3621
02:37:34,389 --> 02:37:32,479
and people are just finding out about

3622
02:37:36,309 --> 02:37:34,399
the friendship case but they

3623
02:37:39,190 --> 02:37:36,319
they should read about it because the

3624
02:37:41,030 --> 02:37:39,200
individual testimonies now everybody

3625
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:41,040
you know that it's over they're able to

3626
02:37:43,910 --> 02:37:42,160
come forth

3627
02:37:45,349 --> 02:37:43,920
now didn't they

3628
02:37:46,790 --> 02:37:45,359
they had

3629
02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:46,800
like a

3630
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:49,680
a weekly get-together at the castle and

3631
02:37:54,150 --> 02:37:52,399
they would sit down

3632
02:37:57,030 --> 02:37:54,160
um and

3633
02:38:00,790 --> 02:37:57,040
and and just talk right they just had an

3634
02:38:04,070 --> 02:38:00,800
an open gathering uh

3635
02:38:06,309 --> 02:38:04,080
did they do it nightly or was it weekly

3636
02:38:08,790 --> 02:38:06,319
no well it

3637
02:38:10,790 --> 02:38:08,800
it was not with all of them that was the

3638
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:10,800
problem it would be with some of the

3639
02:38:16,309 --> 02:38:12,160
group

3640
02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:16,319
and um and i don't i never knew what i

3641
02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:18,880
mean i don't remember there being you

3642
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:21,200
know nightly or weekly but

3643
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:23,600
it was when they when they felt the need

3644
02:38:26,870 --> 02:38:25,520
to communicate and

3645
02:38:29,830 --> 02:38:26,880
um

3646
02:38:32,230 --> 02:38:29,840
i found it very curious that

3647
02:38:34,389 --> 02:38:32,240
when when i talked to stefano about this

3648
02:38:36,710 --> 02:38:34,399
he said to me

3649
02:38:39,750 --> 02:38:36,720
it was it was orchestrated in other

3650
02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:39,760
words right these these beings were

3651
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,640
vegetarian so they'd have to you know

3652
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:44,560
the guy that was subsidizing this would

3653
02:38:47,990 --> 02:38:46,800
have to bring huge trucks of vegetables

3654
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:48,000
and fruits

3655
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:49,840
and they'd have to make the driver go in

3656
02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:52,160
for a cappuccino when he came out the

3657
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:53,600
the the

3658
02:38:58,150 --> 02:38:55,600
the truck was totally empty because they

3659
02:38:59,750 --> 02:38:58,160
teleported everything they were using

3660
02:39:02,150 --> 02:38:59,760
technologies

3661
02:39:03,750 --> 02:39:02,160
that are probably you know existing

3662
02:39:05,429 --> 02:39:03,760
today that we don't know about like

3663
02:39:07,429 --> 02:39:05,439
teleportation

3664
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:07,439
you know they teleported all that food

3665
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:09,520
into that because the the driver would

3666
02:39:13,349 --> 02:39:11,200
come out and couldn't understand how the

3667
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:13,359
truck could be empty that fast

3668
02:39:18,550 --> 02:39:15,760
they were they were showing themselves

3669
02:39:19,750 --> 02:39:18,560
going in and out of the the adriatic

3670
02:39:21,590 --> 02:39:19,760
waters

3671
02:39:24,150 --> 02:39:21,600
they explained

3672
02:39:24,950 --> 02:39:24,160
how they you know how their technologies

3673
02:39:27,110 --> 02:39:24,960
were

3674
02:39:29,429 --> 02:39:27,120
and and what we have to understand was

3675
02:39:33,590 --> 02:39:29,439
that it was an experiment and they were

3676
02:39:35,750 --> 02:39:33,600
told they were told uh at the end

3677
02:39:37,349 --> 02:39:35,760
that this isn't working out anymore

3678
02:39:39,510 --> 02:39:37,359
right now because

3679
02:39:42,950 --> 02:39:39,520
you know that if

3680
02:39:44,790 --> 02:39:42,960
we had an experiment and you got to see

3681
02:39:47,349 --> 02:39:44,800
them one day and i didn't get to see

3682
02:39:49,670 --> 02:39:47,359
them another day and then jealousies

3683
02:39:51,830 --> 02:39:49,680
unfortunately we have these

3684
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:51,840
this consciousness is an individual

3685
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:53,680
selfish consciousness

3686
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:56,160
where i'm convinced that whatever groups

3687
02:39:59,750 --> 02:39:58,399
are visiting have a collective

3688
02:40:01,429 --> 02:39:59,760
consciousness

3689
02:40:02,630 --> 02:40:01,439
in other words they do what's best for

3690
02:40:05,110 --> 02:40:02,640
the group

3691
02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:05,120
and we haven't gotten there yet if we

3692
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:07,760
had gotten there we'd all be uh

3693
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:09,920
cooperating with climate change at this

3694
02:40:12,790 --> 02:40:10,800
point

3695
02:40:15,429 --> 02:40:12,800
you know uh

3696
02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:15,439
we don't have that consciousness

3697
02:40:20,710 --> 02:40:18,800
we're individuals that want individuals

3698
02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:20,720
things and so that didn't

3699
02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:22,960
their technology that was called duraida

3700
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:24,640
didn't work out

3701
02:40:29,510 --> 02:40:27,200
and so they said well we can't stay here

3702
02:40:30,710 --> 02:40:29,520
we we need to leave and i don't know

3703
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:30,720
where they went

3704
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:32,640
i'm not even sure where they were

3705
02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:34,720
originally from

3706
02:40:39,670 --> 02:40:37,600
but uh i know that this really did

3707
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:39,680
happen it was an event and the people

3708
02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:41,840
involved have come forth

3709
02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:45,040
yeah i uh i did a pretty deep dive into

3710
02:40:50,550 --> 02:40:48,399
friendship and and the the one thing

3711
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:50,560
that always stuck with me

3712
02:40:53,510 --> 02:40:52,080
was that

3713
02:40:54,630 --> 02:40:53,520
uh

3714
02:41:04,630 --> 02:40:54,640
the

3715
02:41:07,670 --> 02:41:04,640
no more meetings and and everything was

3716
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:09,990
yeah because

3717
02:41:14,630 --> 02:41:12,240
i don't know you know

3718
02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:14,640
i can only report what was told to me by

3719
02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:16,399
the original people

3720
02:41:21,190 --> 02:41:19,120
but i don't know if we could ever have

3721
02:41:23,429 --> 02:41:21,200
something like that with

3722
02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:23,439
an extraterrestrial race i don't know if

3723
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:25,840
we could ever

3724
02:41:29,590 --> 02:41:27,359
cooperate or

3725
02:41:31,190 --> 02:41:29,600
be at that level and have a collective

3726
02:41:33,830 --> 02:41:31,200
consciousness

3727
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:33,840
i don't know you know there's

3728
02:41:37,349 --> 02:41:36,160
we don't get along among ourselves

3729
02:41:39,510 --> 02:41:37,359
i don't know how we're going to get

3730
02:41:42,389 --> 02:41:39,520
along among anything that looks

3731
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:42,399
different from us so

3732
02:41:49,110 --> 02:41:45,760
you know it's too bad it did happen

3733
02:41:50,309 --> 02:41:49,120
uh and it also happened in chile uh

3734
02:41:52,710 --> 02:41:50,319
but

3735
02:41:54,309 --> 02:41:52,720
what can i say it's like

3736
02:41:55,750 --> 02:41:54,319
these are things that should be studied

3737
02:41:58,309 --> 02:41:55,760
though because they're not american

3738
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:58,319
cases that's an italian case that

3739
02:42:02,950 --> 02:42:01,279
everybody knows about right right and

3740
02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:02,960
the um

3741
02:42:06,870 --> 02:42:04,880
the other part you know and you you've

3742
02:42:09,030 --> 02:42:06,880
mentioned consciousness so much and i s

3743
02:42:09,990 --> 02:42:09,040
you know i love talking about that

3744
02:42:10,830 --> 02:42:10,000
but

3745
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:10,840
there's

3746
02:42:16,070 --> 02:42:12,880
this where

3747
02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:16,080
the uap task force report comes out and

3748
02:42:22,309 --> 02:42:18,880
you hear different

3749
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:22,319
uh parts of the military and capitol

3750
02:42:27,590 --> 02:42:23,359
hill

3751
02:42:28,870 --> 02:42:27,600
uh now saying uh yeah there's something

3752
02:42:30,790 --> 02:42:28,880
going on

3753
02:42:33,269 --> 02:42:30,800
but we don't know anything

3754
02:42:36,070 --> 02:42:33,279
we don't understand any of this we need

3755
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:36,080
to study this but we don't know and

3756
02:42:39,750 --> 02:42:37,840
that's the part where

3757
02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:39,760
i

3758
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:51,040
understand a lot and they know what's

3759
02:42:54,790 --> 02:42:53,439
going on and to state that they know

3760
02:42:58,230 --> 02:42:54,800
nothing

3761
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:58,240
is is is not true

3762
02:43:01,990 --> 02:43:00,399
well i remember colonel carson used to

3763
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:02,000
say to me paul stop using the word

3764
02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:04,240
government it changes like every

3765
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:06,160
everybody in the government changes like

3766
02:43:09,990 --> 02:43:08,800
every 10 years it's a new government so

3767
02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:10,000
which part of the government are you

3768
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:11,279
talking about

3769
02:43:16,070 --> 02:43:13,600
uh and he used to say that to me because

3770
02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:16,080
he didn't like that i used that word

3771
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:19,359
you know just haphazardly and i just

3772
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:21,040
think there are

3773
02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:23,680
um there are groups

3774
02:43:28,790 --> 02:43:26,560
that know a lot uh and

3775
02:43:29,590 --> 02:43:28,800
they're not necessarily government they

3776
02:43:32,950 --> 02:43:29,600
just

3777
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:32,960
you know it's their their groups that

3778
02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:34,720
that have studied this that have put

3779
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:37,200
together some of the pieces of this

3780
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:40,720
uh and and of course it's managed it

3781
02:43:45,590 --> 02:43:42,640
would have to be managed

3782
02:43:47,349 --> 02:43:45,600
um but i never understood why the secret

3783
02:43:48,630 --> 02:43:47,359
was secret i thought it was because it

3784
02:43:50,790 --> 02:43:48,640
was cause

3785
02:43:52,389 --> 02:43:50,800
mass panic jimmy i thought oh

3786
02:43:54,309 --> 02:43:52,399
everybody's going to be panic stricken

3787
02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:54,319
but it's it's really

3788
02:43:58,950 --> 02:43:55,840
the secret is secret because of the

3789
02:44:01,590 --> 02:43:58,960
technologies that we've back engineered

3790
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:01,600
and it has to be monetary it has to be

3791
02:44:06,150 --> 02:44:03,760
has to do with an economy a whole

3792
02:44:07,190 --> 02:44:06,160
economy uh otherwise

3793
02:44:09,190 --> 02:44:07,200
you know

3794
02:44:11,269 --> 02:44:09,200
anymore i don't think that people can't

3795
02:44:13,269 --> 02:44:11,279
handle it i think they could handle it

3796
02:44:16,309 --> 02:44:13,279
right right right right the world's

3797
02:44:19,349 --> 02:44:16,319
gonna freak out is not valid anymore

3798
02:44:21,750 --> 02:44:19,359
that that excuse doesn't hold water

3799
02:44:25,110 --> 02:44:21,760
no it simply doesn't have water nobody

3800
02:44:26,870 --> 02:44:25,120
the i think that the reactions uh so far

3801
02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:26,880
from people outside of this community

3802
02:44:30,550 --> 02:44:28,960
that i talk with that have nothing to do

3803
02:44:33,110 --> 02:44:30,560
with you know

3804
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:33,120
my mailman or you know for instance uh

3805
02:44:36,790 --> 02:44:34,960
who i was talking to

3806
02:44:38,150 --> 02:44:36,800
about this the other day

3807
02:44:39,590 --> 02:44:38,160
he's not part of this community he

3808
02:44:41,110 --> 02:44:39,600
doesn't know what fade to black is he

3809
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:41,120
doesn't know what coast to coast am is

3810
02:44:45,429 --> 02:44:43,439
he's never watched ancient aliens i've

3811
02:44:47,830 --> 02:44:45,439
asked him all these questions but when

3812
02:44:51,110 --> 02:44:47,840
it comes down to you his his response

3813
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:51,120
was immediate of course we're not alone

3814
02:44:55,190 --> 02:44:53,520
universe is just too big i mean what's

3815
02:44:58,070 --> 02:44:55,200
the big deal here

3816
02:45:01,349 --> 02:44:58,080
that's his reaction and i would say that

3817
02:45:03,190 --> 02:45:01,359
that's a pretty general consensus of

3818
02:45:05,190 --> 02:45:03,200
everybody else out there there's not

3819
02:45:07,510 --> 02:45:05,200
going to be a big freak out

3820
02:45:11,670 --> 02:45:07,520
they know that we can't be alone

3821
02:45:13,030 --> 02:45:11,680
right they understand numbers in science

3822
02:45:15,349 --> 02:45:13,040
they also understand that we haven't

3823
02:45:16,309 --> 02:45:15,359
been attacked so i mean it's like i'm

3824
02:45:18,950 --> 02:45:16,319
hoping

3825
02:45:19,910 --> 02:45:18,960
that this doesn't become uh you know uh

3826
02:45:21,990 --> 02:45:19,920
uh

3827
02:45:25,190 --> 02:45:22,000
the next card issue

3828
02:45:26,550 --> 02:45:25,200
uh i was part of of steven grier's film

3829
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:26,560
the uh

3830
02:45:30,389 --> 02:45:27,359
um

3831
02:45:32,389 --> 02:45:30,399
the hoax and uh you know and and because

3832
02:45:33,830 --> 02:45:32,399
i do believe that that we've got to

3833
02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:33,840
watch

3834
02:45:38,950 --> 02:45:36,640
the way that we we look at this i mean

3835
02:45:39,670 --> 02:45:38,960
you know if

3836
02:45:41,269 --> 02:45:39,680
we

3837
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:41,279
there's so many

3838
02:45:47,269 --> 02:45:44,479
so many uh issues here the the fact of

3839
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:47,279
nuclear you know the robert salas and

3840
02:45:53,830 --> 02:45:50,800
washington dc that that talked you know

3841
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:53,840
at the press club about the shutdown of

3842
02:45:57,590 --> 02:45:55,600
missiles and so forth

3843
02:45:59,910 --> 02:45:57,600
you can interpret that as acts of war

3844
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,920
but that could be acts of peace

3845
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:01,439
and and uh

3846
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:04,000
you know whatever is out there is

3847
02:46:08,070 --> 02:46:06,319
what what clifford stone told me

3848
02:46:09,670 --> 02:46:08,080
is is the thing that makes the most

3849
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:09,680
sense because i'm trying to make sense

3850
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:12,479
of this like everybody else he said that

3851
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:14,479
he believed the visitors were cosmic

3852
02:46:17,910 --> 02:46:16,399
anthropologists

3853
02:46:19,670 --> 02:46:17,920
and in other words watching a

3854
02:46:21,910 --> 02:46:19,680
civilization grow

3855
02:46:23,750 --> 02:46:21,920
and and he worked in crash retrieval so

3856
02:46:25,750 --> 02:46:23,760
he's telling the truth because he worked

3857
02:46:28,630 --> 02:46:25,760
in it first hand

3858
02:46:30,309 --> 02:46:28,640
and and you know cosmic anthropologists

3859
02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:30,319
and then let's look at what's going on

3860
02:46:35,349 --> 02:46:32,720
in the planet right now

3861
02:46:38,710 --> 02:46:35,359
you know how did we test do we pass the

3862
02:46:41,269 --> 02:46:38,720
test are we are we any more enlightened

3863
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:41,279
are we any more you know technologically

3864
02:46:46,630 --> 02:46:44,000
astute i mean are we any more spiritual

3865
02:46:48,790 --> 02:46:46,640
are we anymore anything uh you have to

3866
02:46:51,670 --> 02:46:48,800
do we pass any test here

3867
02:46:53,910 --> 02:46:51,680
so i'm looking at at what you know the

3868
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:53,920
people that have been involved have told

3869
02:46:58,950 --> 02:46:56,240
me i remember asking edgar mitchell

3870
02:47:01,269 --> 02:46:58,960
apollo 14 astronaut do you think that we

3871
02:47:03,429 --> 02:47:01,279
should have disclosure and he said no he

3872
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:03,439
says you know he says we're not we we

3873
02:47:07,349 --> 02:47:05,520
don't accept each other

3874
02:47:11,110 --> 02:47:07,359
he'd say he said we don't accept each

3875
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:11,120
other as as as human beings he said how

3876
02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:12,640
in the world are we going to get

3877
02:47:15,670 --> 02:47:14,319
together with

3878
02:47:18,790 --> 02:47:15,680
you know

3879
02:47:20,870 --> 02:47:18,800
we have borders we fight over borders

3880
02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:20,880
and i love his quote

3881
02:47:25,269 --> 02:47:23,520
from outer space he said he'd grab some

3882
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:25,279
politician and he'd say

3883
02:47:29,510 --> 02:47:27,040
you see what you're fighting over there

3884
02:47:31,990 --> 02:47:29,520
there are no borders on this planet

3885
02:47:35,030 --> 02:47:32,000
and uh you know he he was just an

3886
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:35,040
inspiration to me so i've had to ask the

3887
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:37,120
great ones the wise ones and the people

3888
02:47:42,469 --> 02:47:39,520
that i work with what they think

3889
02:47:46,870 --> 02:47:42,479
in order for me to figure out anything

3890
02:47:49,550 --> 02:47:46,880
well i'm gonna see you in seven days

3891
02:47:49,560 --> 02:48:00,710
[Laughter]

3892
02:48:05,590 --> 02:48:02,710
i've got it ordered i've got it ordered

3893
02:48:09,030 --> 02:48:05,600
no i'm so looking forward to it and uh

3894
02:48:12,309 --> 02:48:09,040
it's going to be a great amazing weekend

3895
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:12,319
and and and there you go and uh just

3896
02:48:16,630 --> 02:48:14,880
safe travels out there and i'll see you

3897
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:16,640
on thursday

3898
02:48:21,830 --> 02:48:19,200
thanks jimmy thanks for everything and

3899
02:48:23,830 --> 02:48:21,840
uh let's just keep on this journey

3900
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:23,840
you're the very best paul ayers thank

3901
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you so much again safe travels to

3902
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laughlin everybody starworksusa.com

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talk to you tomorrow

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3979
02:52:47,590 --> 02:52:45,110
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3980
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3981
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3982
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3983
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3984
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3985
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3986
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3987
02:53:05,429 --> 02:53:03,040
now

3988
02:53:10,469 --> 02:53:05,439
i will be in another city

3989
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:10,479
oh in a hotel hanging out with friends

3990
02:53:15,190 --> 02:53:13,120
it is going to be great i've got enough

3991
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:15,200
time for maybe one or two calls

3992
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:22,309
and uh yeah i i

3993
02:53:33,269 --> 02:53:23,200
i

3994
02:53:36,389 --> 02:53:33,279
of all of the

3995
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:36,399
uh et tv series that i've watched in

3996
02:53:42,070 --> 02:53:38,800
like the last six months i mean holy

3997
02:53:43,429 --> 02:53:42,080
crap right and and right now i'm

3998
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:43,439
knee-deep

3999
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:45,920
in foundation

4000
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:48,160
and invasion uh

4001
02:53:52,230 --> 02:53:50,000
getting the updates on those

4002
02:53:55,190 --> 02:53:52,240
uh

4003
02:53:57,429 --> 02:53:55,200
succession has started again so i'm

4004
02:54:00,790 --> 02:53:57,439
getting caught up on that another show

4005
02:54:03,110 --> 02:54:00,800
that isn't et related

4006
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,120
is the morning show

4007
02:54:07,510 --> 02:54:05,200
oh man and if you guys haven't checked

4008
02:54:09,590 --> 02:54:07,520
that out go and watch uh season one i'm

4009
02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:09,600
in the middle of season two right now

4010
02:54:13,510 --> 02:54:12,000
that's an incredible show that is really

4011
02:54:16,230 --> 02:54:13,520
really well done

4012
02:54:18,950 --> 02:54:16,240
but uh yeah i'll make a list

4013
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:18,960
and uh but this movie risen

4014
02:54:22,790 --> 02:54:21,040
uh which i have just finished that's

4015
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:22,800
that's incredible that's a good film

4016
02:54:25,910 --> 02:54:24,240
that's a good one

4017
02:54:28,870 --> 02:54:25,920
and uh

4018
02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:28,880
i watched it uh

4019
02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:31,120
i think i watched it last night

4020
02:54:34,710 --> 02:54:32,800
the night before

4021
02:54:36,469 --> 02:54:34,720
i just watched it okay

4022
02:54:37,670 --> 02:54:36,479
let's uh let's go to the phones hi

4023
02:54:41,510 --> 02:54:37,680
you're live on fade to block who's

4024
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:45,670
you're live

4025
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:46,830
hello

4026
02:54:53,349 --> 02:54:50,560
yes oh jimmy

4027
02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:53,359
yes it's katya oh

4028
02:54:57,750 --> 02:54:55,760
katya how you doing

4029
02:54:59,830 --> 02:54:57,760
i'm doing great how are you doing i'm

4030
02:55:00,830 --> 02:54:59,840
doing fantastic good to hear your voice

4031
02:55:02,550 --> 02:55:00,840
how's

4032
02:55:04,150 --> 02:55:02,560
indiana

4033
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:04,160
it's getting cold

4034
02:55:13,670 --> 02:55:11,190
all of a sudden this boom yeah yeah it's

4035
02:55:15,590 --> 02:55:13,680
uh it's it's come and gone here a couple

4036
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:15,600
of times in southern california today it

4037
02:55:20,150 --> 02:55:17,200
was really nice

4038
02:55:21,750 --> 02:55:20,160
so i thought uh uh

4039
02:55:25,429 --> 02:55:21,760
over the last couple of weeks okay

4040
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:25,439
winter's here here we go and most people

4041
02:55:29,429 --> 02:55:27,200
think that uh

4042
02:55:32,389 --> 02:55:29,439
southern california is just 80 degrees

4043
02:55:34,630 --> 02:55:32,399
all year long right it's no no no it

4044
02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:34,640
gets pretty cold here in the winter so

4045
02:55:37,830 --> 02:55:35,680
but uh

4046
02:55:39,349 --> 02:55:37,840
how you doing

4047
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:39,359
i'm doing good getting ready to go to

4048
02:55:43,510 --> 02:55:41,520
the colts game tomorrow oh

4049
02:55:44,630 --> 02:55:43,520
who they playing

4050
02:55:48,870 --> 02:55:44,640
jets

4051
02:55:51,429 --> 02:55:48,880
ah there you go my family's got season

4052
02:55:52,469 --> 02:55:51,439
tickets so they will they will be there

4053
02:55:54,070 --> 02:55:52,479
as well

4054
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:54,080
um that's all right

4055
02:55:58,070 --> 02:55:56,560
that's tomorrow oh it's a thursday night

4056
02:55:58,870 --> 02:55:58,080
game

4057
02:56:01,590 --> 02:55:58,880
yeah

4058
02:56:02,950 --> 02:56:01,600
oh right on right on so what's going on

4059
02:56:04,710 --> 02:56:02,960
well i'm trying to decide where we're

4060
02:56:07,269 --> 02:56:04,720
gonna go eat

4061
02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:07,279
and it's kind of a toss-up i mean we

4062
02:56:11,670 --> 02:56:09,520
could always go to shapiro's because you

4063
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:11,680
know that's always good

4064
02:56:15,670 --> 02:56:13,840
but you know there's like a handful of

4065
02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:15,680
new places around there we're just kind

4066
02:56:20,309 --> 02:56:17,520
of deciding you know

4067
02:56:22,950 --> 02:56:20,319
where we're going to go and

4068
02:56:24,950 --> 02:56:22,960
can i ask you a question i i saw one of

4069
02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:24,960
your posts the other day

4070
02:56:28,790 --> 02:56:27,279
and now you've got

4071
02:56:31,670 --> 02:56:28,800
first off you've got a nice piece of

4072
02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:31,680
property right but you've also got all

4073
02:56:35,830 --> 02:56:33,359
of the gear

4074
02:56:39,030 --> 02:56:35,840
right you've got night vision

4075
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:39,040
you've got it going on and and

4076
02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:40,399
i mean kinda

4077
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:42,720
but something yes i mean somebody asked

4078
02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:45,120
you if you saw things

4079
02:56:49,830 --> 02:56:47,520
what was your response

4080
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:49,840
oh absolutely i mean

4081
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:52,000
you know you just have to go out at

4082
02:56:56,230 --> 02:56:53,279
night and

4083
02:56:59,670 --> 02:56:56,240
look up and you will see

4084
02:57:02,309 --> 02:56:59,680
you know anomalies in the sky i mean uh

4085
02:57:04,710 --> 02:57:02,319
things that are you know appearing to be

4086
02:57:08,469 --> 02:57:04,720
planes they're very far off but

4087
02:57:11,030 --> 02:57:08,479
they move in erratic movements you know

4088
02:57:14,230 --> 02:57:11,040
very clearly not an airplane

4089
02:57:17,670 --> 02:57:14,240
um and then we've seen some orbs i've

4090
02:57:19,670 --> 02:57:17,680
seen um actually with friend of mine a

4091
02:57:21,510 --> 02:57:19,680
blue orb

4092
02:57:23,990 --> 02:57:21,520
that was the brightest light i've ever

4093
02:57:25,110 --> 02:57:24,000
seen you know it was not

4094
02:57:27,349 --> 02:57:25,120
um

4095
02:57:29,910 --> 02:57:27,359
it was not a dry first my mind was

4096
02:57:31,910 --> 02:57:29,920
thinking it's a drone right right uh

4097
02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:31,920
because the way it's moving but it was

4098
02:57:37,670 --> 02:57:35,279
not a drone jimmy it was the brightest

4099
02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:37,680
brighter than any led light blue light

4100
02:57:42,550 --> 02:57:39,680
you've ever seen and it was checking us

4101
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:42,560
out it had a consciousness

4102
02:57:47,030 --> 02:57:45,040
it was looking at us you know we were

4103
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:47,040
playing music and you know just in a

4104
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:49,600
very high vibe state i think that's what

4105
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:52,080
happens when you put yourself into these

4106
02:57:57,190 --> 02:57:54,720
you know playing music

4107
02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:57,200
um happiness you know surrounding

4108
02:58:00,550 --> 02:57:59,760
yourself with love and friends

4109
02:58:05,750 --> 02:58:00,560
you

4110
02:58:08,230 --> 02:58:05,760
especially out here where there's less

4111
02:58:11,110 --> 02:58:08,240
people there's less lights

4112
02:58:13,910 --> 02:58:11,120
you go about 15 minutes

4113
02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:13,920
farther into like brown county and

4114
02:58:20,870 --> 02:58:18,950
it's here

4115
02:58:22,950 --> 02:58:20,880
you know and people just forget to look

4116
02:58:24,870 --> 02:58:22,960
up right right right

4117
02:58:27,190 --> 02:58:24,880
that's what uh paul was saying earl

4118
02:58:29,670 --> 02:58:27,200
earlier tonight too many people are

4119
02:58:32,389 --> 02:58:29,680
looking down yeah everybody's looking

4120
02:58:35,429 --> 02:58:32,399
down looking at your cell phone you know

4121
02:58:38,150 --> 02:58:35,439
put those down and look up

4122
02:58:40,309 --> 02:58:38,160
precisely it's it's really that easy

4123
02:58:41,910 --> 02:58:40,319
i've got this thing

4124
02:58:44,389 --> 02:58:41,920
um

4125
02:58:46,630 --> 02:58:44,399
i don't know what's going on i'm going

4126
02:58:48,630 --> 02:58:46,640
to figure out a way to get get this on

4127
02:58:49,990 --> 02:58:48,640
video properly so everybody can

4128
02:58:53,670 --> 02:58:50,000
understand

4129
02:58:55,670 --> 02:58:53,680
but i've got this thing um up in the sky

4130
02:58:57,269 --> 02:58:55,680
out here in the desert that is

4131
02:58:58,630 --> 02:58:57,279
definitely

4132
02:59:01,590 --> 02:58:58,640
100

4133
02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:01,600
it's uh it's structured it's three

4134
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:04,240
lights it's white uh

4135
02:59:08,230 --> 02:59:07,200
green and red and i know okay it's

4136
02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:08,240
aircraft

4137
02:59:14,469 --> 02:59:11,600
it it does not move

4138
02:59:16,469 --> 02:59:14,479
stays in the exact same spot

4139
02:59:18,389 --> 02:59:16,479
doesn't hover doesn't move doesn't land

4140
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:18,399
doesn't do anything it's a pretty good

4141
02:59:22,389 --> 02:59:19,840
altitude

4142
02:59:23,269 --> 02:59:22,399
but it sits there

4143
02:59:26,870 --> 02:59:23,279
and

4144
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:26,880
uh when um i look at it with binoculars

4145
02:59:31,429 --> 02:59:29,520
uh not night vision i've looked at it

4146
02:59:34,630 --> 02:59:31,439
with night vision but with binocular you

4147
02:59:36,150 --> 02:59:34,640
can clearly see it's three lights in a

4148
02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:36,160
in a triangle

4149
02:59:40,950 --> 02:59:38,399
and i i don't know what the heck is

4150
02:59:43,269 --> 02:59:40,960
going on nobody else is reporting it

4151
02:59:46,870 --> 02:59:43,279
nobody else is saying anything

4152
02:59:49,110 --> 02:59:46,880
um when i go and i look at a star a star

4153
02:59:51,269 --> 02:59:49,120
is a single point of light

4154
02:59:52,950 --> 02:59:51,279
and then i come back to in and i thought

4155
02:59:54,469 --> 02:59:52,960
well maybe it's a star it's the

4156
02:59:56,790 --> 02:59:54,479
atmosphere

4157
02:59:57,670 --> 02:59:56,800
you know it's reacting with it

4158
03:00:02,710 --> 02:59:57,680
no

4159
03:00:04,950 --> 03:00:02,720
something that's

4160
03:00:06,870 --> 03:00:04,960
some secret project that's being tested

4161
03:00:09,429 --> 03:00:06,880
out there in the desert and probably

4162
03:00:12,230 --> 03:00:09,439
honestly i mean okay so

4163
03:00:14,790 --> 03:00:12,240
when uh i took chief gold and my eagle

4164
03:00:17,429 --> 03:00:14,800
up to lake max and cocky you know to

4165
03:00:19,990 --> 03:00:17,439
culver military academy where

4166
03:00:21,830 --> 03:00:20,000
my husband's family has a late cottage

4167
03:00:23,429 --> 03:00:21,840
and we were hanging out

4168
03:00:26,630 --> 03:00:23,439
and he brought his gear he brought his

4169
03:00:28,550 --> 03:00:26,640
night visual vision goggles and

4170
03:00:31,910 --> 03:00:28,560
um a drone

4171
03:00:34,389 --> 03:00:31,920
and we're just sitting there at culver

4172
03:00:37,670 --> 03:00:34,399
and he's showing me

4173
03:00:41,670 --> 03:00:37,680
you know like okay grissom air force

4174
03:00:44,550 --> 03:00:41,680
base is like 45 minutes south right

4175
03:00:46,309 --> 03:00:44,560
and he's showing me like look okay

4176
03:00:47,269 --> 03:00:46,319
this is how you can tell the difference

4177
03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:47,279
okay

4178
03:00:51,910 --> 03:00:49,040
it's very clear

4179
03:00:54,950 --> 03:00:51,920
the objects that are moving in a very

4180
03:00:57,349 --> 03:00:54,960
uniform fashion those are ours

4181
03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:57,359
the objects that are moving erratically

4182
03:01:01,750 --> 03:01:00,080
those are not ours unless you know it's

4183
03:01:02,630 --> 03:01:01,760
something so advanced that they're i

4184
03:01:03,910 --> 03:01:02,640
mean

4185
03:01:06,150 --> 03:01:03,920
clearly they're not telling us

4186
03:01:09,269 --> 03:01:06,160
everything but

4187
03:01:11,670 --> 03:01:09,279
um there's uh there's a telepathic

4188
03:01:13,830 --> 03:01:11,680
communication that goes on with you

4189
03:01:15,429 --> 03:01:13,840
and the objects and that's how you know

4190
03:01:18,950 --> 03:01:15,439
that it's not ours

4191
03:01:21,190 --> 03:01:18,960
katya i've gotta i've gotta end the show

4192
03:01:23,630 --> 03:01:21,200
i've got to go but

4193
03:01:26,309 --> 03:01:23,640
it's great to hear your voice young lady

4194
03:01:28,150 --> 03:01:26,319
[Laughter]

4195
03:01:29,990 --> 03:01:28,160
jimmy i can't wait to see you again

4196
03:01:32,230 --> 03:01:30,000
katya be safe out there and i'll see you

4197
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:32,240
tomorrow night on fader night

4198
03:01:36,469 --> 03:01:34,399
sounds great you're the best

4199
03:01:39,030 --> 03:01:36,479
katya ferris right there

4200
03:01:41,750 --> 03:01:39,040
incredible thank you katya what a great

4201
03:01:44,710 --> 03:01:41,760
show tonight

4202
03:01:47,190 --> 03:01:44,720
paula hairs bringing her a game

4203
03:01:49,670 --> 03:01:47,200
i'll see everybody next week in laughlin

4204
03:01:51,510 --> 03:01:49,680
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4205
03:01:53,190 --> 03:01:51,520
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4206
03:01:55,670 --> 03:01:53,200
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4207
03:01:57,190 --> 03:01:55,680
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4208
03:01:59,190 --> 03:01:57,200
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4209
03:02:01,110 --> 03:01:59,200
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4210
03:02:02,790 --> 03:02:01,120
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4211
03:02:05,349 --> 03:02:02,800
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4212
03:02:06,710 --> 03:02:05,359
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4213
03:02:09,269 --> 03:02:06,720
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4214
03:02:11,269 --> 03:02:09,279
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4215
03:02:13,190 --> 03:02:11,279
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4216
03:02:14,630 --> 03:02:13,200
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4217
03:02:16,630 --> 03:02:14,640
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4218
03:02:19,110 --> 03:02:16,640
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4219
03:02:22,389 --> 03:02:19,120
church i keep losing my voice by the end

4220
03:02:23,990 --> 03:02:22,399
of the show lately what's up with that

4221
03:02:27,030 --> 03:02:24,000
i'll see everybody tomorrow night for

4222
03:02:31,070 --> 03:02:27,040
fader night until then be safe

4223
03:02:52,950 --> 03:02:31,080
it's time to fade to black

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